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[52.35.100.111]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 14sm5530775pjd.36.2020.04.24.11.58.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iguana.crashland.org (Postfix, from userid 510) id 8C5A96149A; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:58:26 -0700 From: Stephen Carrier To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Two naive questions Message-ID: <20200424185826.GA10854@iguana.crashland.org> References: <20200417174902.GA32412@iguana.crashland.org> <169450016.20200417211620@yandex.ru> <20200420172017.GA17660@iguana.crashland.org> <889844652.20200422125750@yandex.ru> <20200423164934.GB32059@iguana.crashland.org> <20200423191312.GA12831@cgf.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200423191312.GA12831@cgf.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:58:31 -0000 On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 03:13:12PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 09:49:34AM -0700, Stephen Carrier wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:57:50PM +0300, Andrey Repin wrote: > >>You can ask list management software to resend past messages. I don't > >>recall specifics, and given the recent change, they may be entirely > >>obsolete. You can check https://www.list.org/ for directions. > > > >As I commented upthread (Monday) I have seen instructions on how to > >recall messages. I tried them, and they did not work. I tried again > >more recently, and the instructions did not work, and I received bounce > >messages to the effect that the request was not understood. I also > >commented above that I had looked at the mailman documentation for > >which you provide a link, and did not find any method described for > >recalling messages. > > Apparently you're not reading the whole cygwin mailing list thread on this > subject: > > https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2020-April/thread.html I have been following the whole thread, and my comments were in the context of the whole thread. The subject I was addressing was whether either the current or previous versions of the list supported retrieval of old messages. Neither the previous or current incarnations of the list do this, according to me, but what do I know? > To reiterate, cygwin.com's hosting site "sourceware.org" went through a > hardware and software change in March. If you're attempting to use > instructions from before the move to new hardware and different mailing > list software then they won't work. Yes, I had heard. I was not complaining, just reporting results of an investigation to save others the trouble of doing it for themselves. > >If you think I am mistaken, please find the information on how to do this > >and provide a specific link. Providing a link to the main documentation > >page and suggesting that others go looking is to send them on a wild-goose > >chase aka waste of time. > > > >It would be a useful feature, I agree, and if I simply failed to find > >what I was looking for, I would welcome correction. > > Information provided information here: > > https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2020-April/244545.html > https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2020-April/244546.html Yes, I appreciated your contribution, but that wasn't the subject under discussion, which was retrieving messages via the mail list. I was replying to someone else. > To summarize: You can click on the mailto link of any message in the > archive and it will invoke your email client with the proper In-Reply-To > set. That will allow you to reply to the sender of the message and > maintain proper threading. If you want to send to the list, replace the > "To" with the email address of the list. Yes! In this message: https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2020-April/244568.html I said that your suggestion was a good one. Maybe you missed it? That's when I was replying to you! > I am aware that some people may find this incredibly daunting but that's > what's available given the software that we're using. Read the thread > for why we're using the mailman2 software. Yeah, I haven't been complaining or advocated that we use anything different. [ additional proposed solutions that are perfectly good, snipped. ] > If none of this meets your needs then maybe some of the other sites > that archive the cygwin list will have something more to your liking. If you don't mind, I'll continue to participate in the list, which I like very much the way it is. Have you confused me with someone else? > cgf Stephen