From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0B933851C0D for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 11:39:30 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org B0B933851C0D Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=sdf.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cupcake@sdf.org Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:cupcake@rie.sdf.org [205.166.94.4]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 04DBdTFs012244 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 13 May 2020 11:39:29 GMT Received: (from cupcake@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 04DBdTjJ019917; Wed, 13 May 2020 07:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 07:39:29 -0400 (EDT) From: David Message-Id: <202005131139.04DBdTjJ019917@sdf.org> To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Groups command failing me in Windows 10 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 11:39:34 -0000 Hello, The groups command in the cmd window on Windows 10 shows None as my first group. When I use the dir command to create a file, the security display shows no error. When I use the touch command to create a file, I get "The permissions on ... are incorrectly ordered [NULL if first] I bought two refurbished Windows 10 machines and this is the same on both. I am on local machines with no outside domain connection. In the fewest steps, how do I assign this user to a group? What group should I assign the user to - so that when I create a file the group is set. Can I do that with net localgroup newgroup Admin /Add I have been working on this for a couple of weeks and cannot figure it out by myself and I can't find a wonder answer on google. I am going to take a chance that my email will be spammed because I really would like to know the answer to this. So, I have added bcc to myself hoping you can forward to me or answer to me. David This is influenced in a number of ways. Let compare: C:\Users\Admin: groups C:\Users\Admin: None docker-users Performance Log Users Users INTERACTIVE CONSOLE LOGON Authenticated Users ... C:\Users\Admin: dir > admin.dir.out C:\Users\Admin: ls -ls admin.dir.out C:\Users\Admin: 8 -rwxrwxrwx+ 1 Admin None 6127 May 12 15:05 admin..dir.out C: explorer: No error when Security is clicked C:\Users\Admin: touch admin.touch.out C:\Users\Admin: ls -ls admin.touch.out C:\Users\Admin: 0 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 0 May 12 15:05 admin.touch.out C: explorer: The permissions on ... are incorrectly ordered [NULL is first] C:\Users\Admin: run as admministrator C:\Users\Admin: groups C:\Users\Admin: None Local account and member of Administrators group docker-users Administrators Performance Log Users INT... C:\Users\Admin: dir > administrator.dir.out C:\Users\Admin: ls -ls administrator.dir.out C:\Users\Admin: 8 -rwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators None 6245 May 12 15:05 administrator.dir.out C: explorer: No error when Security is clicked C:\Users\Admin: touch administrator.touch.out C:\Users\Admin: ls -ls administrator.touch.out C:\Users\Admin: 0 -rw-r--r--+ 1 Admin None 0 May 12 15:05 administrator.touch.out C: explorer: The permissions on ... are incorrectly ordered [NULL is first] David