* emacs oddity
@ 2014-05-21 0:33 Max Polk
2014-05-21 2:24 ` Ken Brown
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From: Max Polk @ 2014-05-21 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Cygwin list
I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the keyboard and the editor is idle.:
seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
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* Re: emacs oddity
2014-05-21 0:33 emacs oddity Max Polk
@ 2014-05-21 2:24 ` Ken Brown
2014-05-21 8:12 ` Markus Hoenicka
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From: Ken Brown @ 2014-05-21 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote:
> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the keyboard and the editor is idle.:
>
> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
>
> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
Have you tried the test release
(https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)?
Ken
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* Re: emacs oddity
2014-05-21 2:24 ` Ken Brown
@ 2014-05-21 8:12 ` Markus Hoenicka
2014-05-21 12:01 ` Ken Brown
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From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say:
> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote:
>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from
>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the
>> keyboard and the editor is idle.:
>>
>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
>>
>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to
>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
>
> Have you tried the test release
> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)?
>
Hi,
I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall
that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed random
crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 since
I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks ago.
None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs 24)
or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because the
problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've
preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions:
Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 blink-cursor-timer-function
nil nil 100000], 4
Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H
> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã
^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã
^H
\"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1
delq] 4 2245674]
timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low
micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...]
All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do not
have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the
installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols.
I'll grab the -x11 build of Ken's test release and see if these odd
messages and crashes still occur.
regards,
Markus
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* Re: emacs oddity
2014-05-21 8:12 ` Markus Hoenicka
@ 2014-05-21 12:01 ` Ken Brown
2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka
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From: Ken Brown @ 2014-05-21 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say:
>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote:
>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from
>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the
>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.:
>>>
>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
>>>
>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to
>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
>>
>> Have you tried the test release
>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)?
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall
> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed random
> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 since
> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks ago.
> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs 24)
> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because the
> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've
> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions:
>
> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 blink-cursor-timer-function
> nil nil 100000], 4
>
> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H
>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã
^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã
^H
> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1
> delq] 4 2245674]
>
> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low
> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...]
>
> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do not
> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the
> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols.
You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols.
Ken
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* Re: emacs oddity
2014-05-21 12:01 ` Ken Brown
@ 2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka
2014-05-21 13:19 ` Markus Hoenicka
2014-06-10 23:35 ` markus.hoenicka
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From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Am 2014-05-21 13:46, schrieb Ken Brown:
> On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
>> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say:
>>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote:
>>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from
>>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching
>>>> the
>>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.:
>>>>
>>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
>>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
>>>>
>>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to
>>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
>>>
>>> Have you tried the test release
>>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)?
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall
>> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed
>> random
>> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11
>> since
>> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks
>> ago.
>> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs
>> 24)
>> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because
>> the
>> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've
>> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions:
>>
>> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5
>> blink-cursor-timer-function
>> nil nil 100000], 4
>>
>> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H
>>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã
^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã
^H
>> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1
>> delq] 4 2245674]
>>
>> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low
>> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...]
>>
>> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do
>> not
>> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the
>> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols.
>
> You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols.
>
Thanks, I've installed it now just in case. Until now, no crashes or
weird messages with emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 yet...
regards,
Markus
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* Re: emacs oddity
2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka
@ 2014-05-21 13:19 ` Markus Hoenicka
2014-06-10 23:35 ` markus.hoenicka
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From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Am 2014-05-21 13:46, schrieb Ken Brown:
> On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
>> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say:
>>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote:
>>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from
>>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching
>>>> the
>>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.:
>>>>
>>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
>>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
>>>>
>>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to
>>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
>>>
>>> Have you tried the test release
>>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)?
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall
>> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed
>> random
>> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11
>> since
>> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks
>> ago.
>> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs
>> 24)
>> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because
>> the
>> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've
>> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions:
>>
>> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5
>> blink-cursor-timer-function
>> nil nil 100000], 4
>>
>> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H
>>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã
^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã
^H
>> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1
>> delq] 4 2245674]
>>
>> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low
>> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...]
>>
>> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do
>> not
>> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the
>> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols.
>
> You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols.
>
Thanks, I've installed it now just in case. Until now, no crashes or
weird messages with emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 yet...
regards,
Markus
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* Re: emacs oddity
2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka
2014-05-21 13:19 ` Markus Hoenicka
@ 2014-06-10 23:35 ` markus.hoenicka
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From: markus.hoenicka @ 2014-06-10 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Markus Hoenicka writes:
> Am 2014-05-21 13:46, schrieb Ken Brown:
> > On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
> >> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say:
> >>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote:
> >>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from
> >>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching
> >>>> the
> >>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.:
> >>>>
> >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN
> >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0
> >>>>
> >>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to
> >>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something.
> >>>
> >>> Have you tried the test release
> >>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall
> >> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed
> >> random
> >> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11
> >> since
> >> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks
> >> ago.
> >> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs
> >> 24)
> >> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because
> >> the
> >> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've
> >> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions:
> >>
> >> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5
> >> blink-cursor-timer-function
> >> nil nil 100000], 4
> >>
> >> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H
> >>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Å^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Å^H
> >> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1
> >> delq] 4 2245674]
> >>
> >> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low
> >> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...]
> >>
> >> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do
> >> not
> >> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the
> >> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols.
> >
> > You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols.
> >
>
> Thanks, I've installed it now just in case. Until now, no crashes or
> weird messages with emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 yet...
>
> regards,
> Markus
>
Hi,
I've been testing emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 for more than two weeks now, and
this is what happened:
- a few hours after I claimed that there were no problems with this
version yet (see above), Emacs crashed again.
- I used to start Emacs from gdb for about two weeks, hoping to catch it
red-handed. No problems occurred
- I reverted to starting Emacs as I had done for years (through
startxwin), but I've set up the CYGWIN environment variable to
create true core dumps. A couple of days later Emacs crashed again
and left a core dump. I've sent that along with a problem
description to bug-gnu-emacs AT gnu.org:
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=17753
This basically means that the current test release is a major
improvement although it did not eliminate crashes altogether. As I do
not have any core dumps of the previous Emacs version, I can't even
tell whether or not the same bugs are involved.
regards,
Markus
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