From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51725 invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2019 05:18:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 51715 invoked by uid 89); 19 Mar 2019 05:18:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EXECUTABLE_URI,KAM_EXEURI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 spammy=Modify, birth, readers, Device X-HELO: smtp-out-so.shaw.ca Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (HELO smtp-out-so.shaw.ca) (64.59.136.138) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 05:18:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id 678nhzRF8o7SQ678ohCN3n; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:18:23 -0600 Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Subject: Re: Misleading timestamps on setup-x86_64.exe To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: From: Brian Inglis Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: <33439c07-5fc7-e383-4892-c0285ecf810f@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 05:18:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2019-03/txt/msg00478.txt.bz2 On 2019-03-18 22:38, Mark Geisert wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 01:55:36 -0700, Jim Fehrle wrote: >> Mark Geisert wrote: >>> Here are mine: >>> /c/staging ls -l Cygwin??/setup*.exe >>> -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 Mark None 1171475 Dec 20 01:18 Cygwin32/setup-x86.exe* >>> -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 Mark None 1224211 Dec 20 01:17 Cygwin64/setup-x86_64.exe* >>> Check the size of your v2.895 against the last line above. If it's >>> different, you may not have the recent version you think. I don't want >>> to speculate why. >>> How did you download?  Is there a proxy cache in the way? >> The file length matches exactly. >> I downloaded by clicking the link at https://cygwin.com/.  No idea about a >> proxy server.  Is that something an ISP might set up?  I'm working from my >> home, not an office.  Not work-related. > Well, having the file size match means you've probably got the latest > setup-x86_64.exe.  That argues against a proxy cache being in the way. > FWIW the times shown for my files are the times I downloaded them from the > Cygwin website, same way you did.  So I can't reproduce what you're seeing. > I'm out of ideas.  Sorry :-). With what utilities and options were the files uploaded and downloaded? Probably depends on the sourceware.org network file server metadata which seems consistently wacky: Cygwin time machine using Julian month Dec==10? Possibly from building over test V2.894 on your machine then uploading via lftp or alternatives. $ stat mirror/x86_64/setup-x86_64.exe File: mirror/x86_64/setup-x86_64.exe Size: 1224211 Blocks: 1196 IO Block: 65536 regular file Device: 6b8d438h/112776248d Inode: 17451448557505386 Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: (uuuuuu/ $USER) Gid: ( 545/ Users) Access: 2018-12-17 17:56:40.000000000 -0700 Modify: 2018-10-21 10:02:14.000000000 -0600 Change: 2018-12-17 17:56:40.925576800 -0700 Birth: 2017-12-19 23:10:28.037705900 -0700 $ wget -N -P /tmp/ https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe{,.sig} $ stat /tmp/setup-x86_64.exe{,.sig} File: /tmp/setup-x86_64.exe Size: 1224211 Blocks: 1196 IO Block: 65536 regular file Device: 6b8d438h/112776248d Inode: 25614222881940454 Links: 1 Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (uuuuuu/ $USER) Gid: ( 545/ Users) Access: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.000000000 -0600 Modify: 2018-10-21 10:02:14.000000000 -0600 Change: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.784884100 -0600 Birth: 2019-03-18 22:53:36.878740000 -0600 File: /tmp/setup-x86_64.exe.sig Size: 72 Blocks: 1 IO Block: 65536 regular file Device: 6b8d438h/112776248d Inode: 52354345669496533 Links: 1 Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (uuuuuu/ $USER) Gid: ( 545/ Users) Access: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.000000000 -0600 Modify: 2018-10-21 10:02:34.000000000 -0600 Change: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.878670500 -0600 Birth: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.862994200 -0600 -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple