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From: Stipe Tolj <tolj@uni-duesseldorf.de>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>
Cc: mh@mike.franken.de, cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 15:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36E31053.6496@uni-duesseldorf.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199903072053.PAA14157@envy.delorie.com>

DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> > >Warning: I've not seen full sources on ftp.franken.de, which is a
> > >violation of the GPL.  You'll have to get the sources those packages
> >
> > Really? I thought, a pointer to the location of the sources would be
> > sufficient!?!
> 
> The GNU GPL version 2 requires that all the sources needed to build a
> given binary be made available via the same means as the binary.  For
> FTP/WWW access, this means on the same site (I asked RMS once).  The
> reasons are:

I don't know if I'm legaly right, but this would mean SuSE and others
would have to provide sources (like xforms) which are included in binary
form but not freely available as sources. Is that right?

> > If not, please tell me, what I have to do to fullfill the GPL! There was
> > no intention to violate it.
> 
> Simple.  Each tar/zip containing binaries must have a corresponding
> tar/zip of the sources, at the same site.  This is what djgpp does,
> this is what you should do.  If you ever remove the package, you
> remove both the source and binary at the same time.  When you
> distribute via ftp/www, the three year offer doesn't count - the user
> should download both the sources and binaries at the same time if they
> want them.  They aren't required to take the sources, but you are
> required to make them available whenever the binaries are available.

FYI, my cygwin ports to ftp.franken.de have always included sources :))

I hope Michael doesn't cut his cygwin porting efforts now ;(

Regards,
Stipe

-- 
Stipe Tolj <tolj@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Cygwin Porting Project
Department of Economical Computer Science        
University of Cologne, Germany                  
http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~tolj



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From: Stipe Tolj <tolj@uni-duesseldorf.de>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>
Cc: mh@mike.franken.de, cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36E31053.6496@uni-duesseldorf.de> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990331194500.6PI8JfbdxS5RLPzqQhsUmvHmsrJ63RuFtJEkiRF2ICE@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199903072053.PAA14157@envy.delorie.com>

DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> > >Warning: I've not seen full sources on ftp.franken.de, which is a
> > >violation of the GPL.  You'll have to get the sources those packages
> >
> > Really? I thought, a pointer to the location of the sources would be
> > sufficient!?!
> 
> The GNU GPL version 2 requires that all the sources needed to build a
> given binary be made available via the same means as the binary.  For
> FTP/WWW access, this means on the same site (I asked RMS once).  The
> reasons are:

I don't know if I'm legaly right, but this would mean SuSE and others
would have to provide sources (like xforms) which are included in binary
form but not freely available as sources. Is that right?

> > If not, please tell me, what I have to do to fullfill the GPL! There was
> > no intention to violate it.
> 
> Simple.  Each tar/zip containing binaries must have a corresponding
> tar/zip of the sources, at the same site.  This is what djgpp does,
> this is what you should do.  If you ever remove the package, you
> remove both the source and binary at the same time.  When you
> distribute via ftp/www, the three year offer doesn't count - the user
> should download both the sources and binaries at the same time if they
> want them.  They aren't required to take the sources, but you are
> required to make them available whenever the binaries are available.

FYI, my cygwin ports to ftp.franken.de have always included sources :))

I hope Michael doesn't cut his cygwin porting efforts now ;(

Regards,
Stipe

-- 
Stipe Tolj <tolj@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Cygwin Porting Project
Department of Economical Computer Science        
University of Cologne, Germany                  
http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~tolj



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  reply	other threads:[~1999-03-07 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-07  9:11 Stipe Tolj
     [not found] ` < 36E2B26B.BEA9DC67@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 10:06   ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]     ` < 199903071805.NAA13212@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-07 11:10       ` Michael Hirmke
     [not found]         ` < 7COu0ETppfB@mike.franken.de >
1999-03-07 12:53           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55             ` Stipe Tolj [this message]
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55         ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]           ` < 36E30E97.7310@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 16:11             ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-07 17:16             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Michael Hirmke
1999-03-07 15:54     ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]       ` < 36E30CB6.1B5F@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 16:41         ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-07 17:13         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-08 22:58           ` Greg Miller
     [not found]             ` < 36E4C5C5.B27DD935@classic-games.com >
1999-03-09  8:47               ` Steve Morris
1999-03-09 11:48                 ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                   ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Greg Miller
1999-03-09 17:39           ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]             ` < 36E5C12D.5017@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-09 17:42               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-08  7:14         ` Michael Weiser
     [not found]           ` < 36e38cb6.1308201@mail.weiser.saale-net.de >
1999-03-08  7:20             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-09 17:40           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]     ` <199903081523.KAA03738@brocade.nexen.com>
1999-03-08  7:34       ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]         ` <87yal7dgkn.fsf@mattdav.vip.best.com>
1999-03-08 10:06           ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]             ` < 199903081805.NAA22437@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-08 11:48               ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-07  9:19 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 007501be68c0$ee6d69b0$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-03-07 10:07   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 10:11   ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-07 15:54     ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45     ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07 10:13 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07 14:08 N8TM
     [not found] ` < 57b99220.36e2f890@aol.com >
1999-03-07 14:22   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55     ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]       ` < 36E311C7.672E@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 17:25         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` N8TM
1999-03-07 15:52 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07 19:09 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-08  2:33 Smith, Martin
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Smith, Martin
1999-03-08  5:50 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]   ` < 36E5C95D.7810@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-10  7:18     ` Michael Weiser
     [not found]       ` < 36e94a87.1879752@mail.weiser.saale-net.de >
1999-03-10  7:44         ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]           ` < 199903101543.KAA07228@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-10 18:33             ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-11  0:15       ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Greg Miller
1999-03-11 15:59       ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]         ` < 36E70E49.4A77@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-12  7:10           ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-08  6:58 Smith, Martin
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Smith, Martin
1999-03-10 18:46 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-11  5:30 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-11  6:07 Jonathan Pryor
1999-03-11 16:42 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Jonathan Pryor

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