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From: michael@weiser.saale-net.de (Michael Weiser)
To: tolj@uni-duesseldorf.de
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36e94a87.1879752@mail.weiser.saale-net.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: < 36E5C95D.7810@uni-duesseldorf.de >

Hello Stipe, you wrote:
>> > *     Of course, using InstallShield, you could offer some of these as
>> > options under "Custom" setup.
>> 8<
>> Yuk.  Just give me a tarball please.
>the cygwin port packages will be available as tarballs for after-install
>use, but the basic installation procedure for core cygwin and all
>pre-compiled packages will be within InstallShield since it is a very
>powerfull tool for such purposes on Win32 systems and new cygwin users
>should be more familiar with InstallShield than saying "tar xfz
>foo.tar.gz" within a non-DOS bash shell.
Why? Someone who can't do a tar -xzvf will also be unable to use
cygwin after install. It's the old thread which shows up here
regularly and I'm one of those who want tar's or even better rpm's.

>> I like the idea, too.  However, it is a given that you'll never
>> satisfy everyone and if you're too lazy to read do the FAQ session
>> then you're going to be too lazy to read any other installation manual
>> as well.  I can just hear the questions now, "I just got this CD and
>> I'm trying to ...". ;^)
>Hmmm, that's why we want to build the CD environment as clean as
>possible, like SuSE does it with the latest 6.0 release. Mainly all
>packages should work after installation. Support for re-compiling the
>packages will be very limited.
If recompiling support is limited, then you'll immediately be
violating the GPL (according to DJ Delorie).

BTW: SuSE is getting worse with every release. :-|
-- 
bye, Michael

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From: michael@weiser.saale-net.de (Michael Weiser)
To: tolj@uni-duesseldorf.de
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36e94a87.1879752@mail.weiser.saale-net.de> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990331194500.6zaoIVfs1-kPBq908pEHn0Uspd0LkFgwBb_Ze1fIsLk@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36E5C95D.7810@uni-duesseldorf.de>

Hello Stipe, you wrote:
>> > *     Of course, using InstallShield, you could offer some of these as
>> > options under "Custom" setup.
>> 8<
>> Yuk.  Just give me a tarball please.
>the cygwin port packages will be available as tarballs for after-install
>use, but the basic installation procedure for core cygwin and all
>pre-compiled packages will be within InstallShield since it is a very
>powerfull tool for such purposes on Win32 systems and new cygwin users
>should be more familiar with InstallShield than saying "tar xfz
>foo.tar.gz" within a non-DOS bash shell.
Why? Someone who can't do a tar -xzvf will also be unable to use
cygwin after install. It's the old thread which shows up here
regularly and I'm one of those who want tar's or even better rpm's.

>> I like the idea, too.  However, it is a given that you'll never
>> satisfy everyone and if you're too lazy to read do the FAQ session
>> then you're going to be too lazy to read any other installation manual
>> as well.  I can just hear the questions now, "I just got this CD and
>> I'm trying to ...". ;^)
>Hmmm, that's why we want to build the CD environment as clean as
>possible, like SuSE does it with the latest 6.0 release. Mainly all
>packages should work after installation. Support for re-compiling the
>packages will be very limited.
If recompiling support is limited, then you'll immediately be
violating the GPL (according to DJ Delorie).

BTW: SuSE is getting worse with every release. :-|
-- 
bye, Michael

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-03-10  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-08  5:50 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]   ` < 36E5C95D.7810@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-10  7:18     ` Michael Weiser [this message]
     [not found]       ` < 36e94a87.1879752@mail.weiser.saale-net.de >
1999-03-10  7:44         ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]           ` < 199903101543.KAA07228@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-10 18:33             ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-11  0:15       ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Greg Miller
1999-03-11 15:59       ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]         ` < 36E70E49.4A77@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-12  7:10           ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-03-11  6:07 Jonathan Pryor
1999-03-11 16:42 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Jonathan Pryor
1999-03-11  5:30 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-10 18:46 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-08  6:58 Smith, Martin
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Smith, Martin
1999-03-08  2:33 Smith, Martin
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Smith, Martin
1999-03-07 19:09 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-07 15:52 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07 14:08 N8TM
     [not found] ` < 57b99220.36e2f890@aol.com >
1999-03-07 14:22   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55     ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]       ` < 36E311C7.672E@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 17:25         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` N8TM
1999-03-07 10:13 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07  9:19 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 007501be68c0$ee6d69b0$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-03-07 10:07   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 10:11   ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-07 15:54     ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45     ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07  9:11 Stipe Tolj
     [not found] ` < 36E2B26B.BEA9DC67@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 10:06   ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]     ` < 199903071805.NAA13212@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-07 11:10       ` Michael Hirmke
     [not found]         ` < 7COu0ETppfB@mike.franken.de >
1999-03-07 12:53           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55         ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]           ` < 36E30E97.7310@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 16:11             ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-07 17:16             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Michael Hirmke
1999-03-07 15:54     ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]       ` < 36E30CB6.1B5F@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 16:41         ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-07 17:13         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-08 22:58           ` Greg Miller
     [not found]             ` < 36E4C5C5.B27DD935@classic-games.com >
1999-03-09  8:47               ` Steve Morris
1999-03-09 11:48                 ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                   ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Greg Miller
1999-03-09 17:39           ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]             ` < 36E5C12D.5017@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-09 17:42               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-08  7:14         ` Michael Weiser
     [not found]           ` < 36e38cb6.1308201@mail.weiser.saale-net.de >
1999-03-08  7:20             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-09 17:40           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]     ` <199903081523.KAA03738@brocade.nexen.com>
1999-03-08  7:34       ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]         ` <87yal7dgkn.fsf@mattdav.vip.best.com>
1999-03-08 10:06           ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]             ` < 199903081805.NAA22437@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-08 11:48               ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Stipe Tolj

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