does bash provide scrolling ?

does bash provide scrolling ?

[Jan-Friedrich Mutter]

Hi,

is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
Win98 ?

Thanks, Jan.


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Re: does bash provide scrolling ?

[Charles Wilson]

Jan-Friedrich Mutter wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
> Win98 ?
>
> Thanks, Jan.
>

Scrolling is not a function of your shell, but of your terminal -- i.e.
cmd.exe/command.com (+ conagent.exe on Win95/98). So, you need to run
bash in a terminal that provides a scrollback buffer. If you have an
Xserver, you can run rxvt instead of cmd. Do this:

rxvt -sl 2000 -e bash

This will create an rxvt terminal with a scrollback buffer with 2000
lines, and start bash in that terminal. I've got a shortcut on my
desktop with the following command:

F:\cygnus\cygwin-b20\usr\local\bin\rxvt.exe -fn sabvga -bg
"rgbi:0/0/0.1" -fg "rgbi:1/1/0.9" -sl 2000 -e bash -login

This uses the sabvga font, dark blue background, pale yellow foregound,
and starts bash as a login shell. If you're using a precompiled version
of rxvt, you'll probably get a dummy dosbox on your screen, too. Fix
this by recompiling rxvt from the rxvt-2.6PRE2 sources (instructions in
the mail archives) or by downloading
ftp://belgarion.resnet.gatech.edu/pub/run/run-1.1.4.tar.gz and using run
to execute rxvt (it hides the dummy dosbox).

A good free xserver is XWin-32, available from http://www.starnet.com/
It has a two hour (renewable) time limit, though.

--Chuck




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Re: does bash provide scrolling ?

[Charles Wilson]

Jan-Friedrich Mutter wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
> Win98 ?
>
> Thanks, Jan.
>

Scrolling is not a function of your shell, but of your terminal -- i.e.
cmd.exe/command.com (+ conagent.exe on Win95/98). So, you need to run
bash in a terminal that provides a scrollback buffer. If you have an
Xserver, you can run rxvt instead of cmd. Do this:

rxvt -sl 2000 -e bash

This will create an rxvt terminal with a scrollback buffer with 2000
lines, and start bash in that terminal. I've got a shortcut on my
desktop with the following command:

F:\cygnus\cygwin-b20\usr\local\bin\rxvt.exe -fn sabvga -bg
"rgbi:0/0/0.1" -fg "rgbi:1/1/0.9" -sl 2000 -e bash -login

This uses the sabvga font, dark blue background, pale yellow foregound,
and starts bash as a login shell. If you're using a precompiled version
of rxvt, you'll probably get a dummy dosbox on your screen, too. Fix
this by recompiling rxvt from the rxvt-2.6PRE2 sources (instructions in
the mail archives) or by downloading
ftp://belgarion.resnet.gatech.edu/pub/run/run-1.1.4.tar.gz and using run
to execute rxvt (it hides the dummy dosbox).

A good free xserver is XWin-32, available from http://www.starnet.com/
It has a two hour (renewable) time limit, though.

--Chuck




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does bash provide scrolling ?

[Jan-Friedrich Mutter]

Hi,

is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
Win98 ?

Thanks, Jan.


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RE: does bash provide scrolling ?

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

Assuming that's what Jan is looking for (and I believe it is too), 9x doesn't
have this very useful capability in command.com.  Anyone who is interested 
can check out the discussion in the archives on this very subject
from a week or two back.  The short version is either get some 
commercial Win32 replacement for command.com (4DOS or another product I
don't recall the name of) or work with rxvt (with or without X11).

Larry Hall                             lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                     (781) 239-1053
8 Grove Street                         (781) 239-1655
Wellesley, MA, 02482-7797              http://www.rfk.com


At 04:16 PM 4/7/99 +0100, David.Smith@syntegra.bt.co.uk wrote:
>I am not sure about W98, but in NT 4.0 I open the command shell properties
>dialog, go to the Layout tab and set the buffer size to 10 times the window
>height.  This gives me vertical scroll bars and the ability to look at the
>last 10 screens.  The maximum buffer size seems to be 9999.
>
>Regards,
>David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan-Friedrich Mutter [ mailto:jmutter@bigfoot.de ]
>> Sent: 07 April 1999 15:58
>> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: does bash provide scrolling ?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
>> Win98 ?
>> 
>> Thanks, Jan.
>> 
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RE: does bash provide scrolling ?

[David.Smith]

I am not sure about W98, but in NT 4.0 I open the command shell properties
dialog, go to the Layout tab and set the buffer size to 10 times the window
height.  This gives me vertical scroll bars and the ability to look at the
last 10 screens.  The maximum buffer size seems to be 9999.

Regards,
David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan-Friedrich Mutter [ mailto:jmutter@bigfoot.de ]
> Sent: 07 April 1999 15:58
> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: does bash provide scrolling ?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
> Win98 ?
> 
> Thanks, Jan.
> 
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RE: does bash provide scrolling ?

[Dan Herron]

On a similar note, can anybody tell me how to bind my page-up and
page-down keys to scroll the window (using the normal NT command shell,
that is)? Given how long it took me to figure key-binding out under Unix,
I don't want to image how long it would take me for Windows...

thanks,
Dan

At 04:16 PM 4/7/99 +0100, David.Smith@syntegra.bt.co.uk wrote:
>I am not sure about W98, but in NT 4.0 I open the command shell properties
>dialog, go to the Layout tab and set the buffer size to 10 times the window
>height.  This gives me vertical scroll bars and the ability to look at the
>last 10 screens.  The maximum buffer size seems to be 9999.
>
>Regards,
>David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan-Friedrich Mutter [ mailto:jmutter@bigfoot.de ]
>> Sent: 07 April 1999 15:58
>> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: does bash provide scrolling ?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
>> Win98 ?
>> 
>> Thanks, Jan.


Daniel Herron             Universitaet Hamburg / Fachbereich Informatik
phone: (49) 40 / 428 83 2519           AB Natuerlichsprachliche Systeme
fax:   (49) 40 / 428 83 2515                     Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30
herron@informatik.uni-hamburg.de                        D-22527 Hamburg

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RE: does bash provide scrolling ?

[Dan Herron]

On a similar note, can anybody tell me how to bind my page-up and
page-down keys to scroll the window (using the normal NT command shell,
that is)? Given how long it took me to figure key-binding out under Unix,
I don't want to image how long it would take me for Windows...

thanks,
Dan

At 04:16 PM 4/7/99 +0100, David.Smith@syntegra.bt.co.uk wrote:
>I am not sure about W98, but in NT 4.0 I open the command shell properties
>dialog, go to the Layout tab and set the buffer size to 10 times the window
>height.  This gives me vertical scroll bars and the ability to look at the
>last 10 screens.  The maximum buffer size seems to be 9999.
>
>Regards,
>David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan-Friedrich Mutter [ mailto:jmutter@bigfoot.de ]
>> Sent: 07 April 1999 15:58
>> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: does bash provide scrolling ?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
>> Win98 ?
>> 
>> Thanks, Jan.


Daniel Herron             Universitaet Hamburg / Fachbereich Informatik
phone: (49) 40 / 428 83 2519           AB Natuerlichsprachliche Systeme
fax:   (49) 40 / 428 83 2515                     Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30
herron@informatik.uni-hamburg.de                        D-22527 Hamburg

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RE: does bash provide scrolling ?

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

Assuming that's what Jan is looking for (and I believe it is too), 9x doesn't
have this very useful capability in command.com.  Anyone who is interested 
can check out the discussion in the archives on this very subject
from a week or two back.  The short version is either get some 
commercial Win32 replacement for command.com (4DOS or another product I
don't recall the name of) or work with rxvt (with or without X11).

Larry Hall                             lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                     (781) 239-1053
8 Grove Street                         (781) 239-1655
Wellesley, MA, 02482-7797              http://www.rfk.com


At 04:16 PM 4/7/99 +0100, David.Smith@syntegra.bt.co.uk wrote:
>I am not sure about W98, but in NT 4.0 I open the command shell properties
>dialog, go to the Layout tab and set the buffer size to 10 times the window
>height.  This gives me vertical scroll bars and the ability to look at the
>last 10 screens.  The maximum buffer size seems to be 9999.
>
>Regards,
>David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan-Friedrich Mutter [ mailto:jmutter@bigfoot.de ]
>> Sent: 07 April 1999 15:58
>> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: does bash provide scrolling ?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
>> Win98 ?
>> 
>> Thanks, Jan.
>> 
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RE: does bash provide scrolling ?

[David.Smith]

I am not sure about W98, but in NT 4.0 I open the command shell properties
dialog, go to the Layout tab and set the buffer size to 10 times the window
height.  This gives me vertical scroll bars and the ability to look at the
last 10 screens.  The maximum buffer size seems to be 9999.

Regards,
David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan-Friedrich Mutter [ mailto:jmutter@bigfoot.de ]
> Sent: 07 April 1999 15:58
> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: does bash provide scrolling ?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is it possible to configure the bash that it is able to scroll up in
> Win98 ?
> 
> Thanks, Jan.
> 
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