Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Earnie Boyd]

--- Eric Christopher <echristo@cygnus.com> wrote:
-8<-
> While I'm on this type of bent, does anyone have an opinion on making
> the filesystem case insensitive by default for MAKE_MODE = win32? 
> Alternately it could be a flag or something.  Just wondering what people
> thought.

Have you really thought about this?  Gcc cares about case of the filename,
especially some suffixes.  Besides, bash supports switches for
case-insensitivity; I don't know though if the same is true for ash.


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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Eric Christopher]

Earnie Boyd wrote:
> 
> --- Eric Christopher <echristo@cygnus.com> wrote:
> -8<-
> > While I'm on this type of bent, does anyone have an opinion on making
> > the filesystem case insensitive by default for MAKE_MODE = win32?
> > Alternately it could be a flag or something.  Just wondering what people
> > thought.
> 
> Have you really thought about this?  Gcc cares about case of the filename,
> especially some suffixes.  Besides, bash supports switches for
> case-insensitivity; I don't know though if the same is true for ash.
> 

Yeah, that's why I'm asking. :)  It was more of a question for people
who use win32 mode from within cmd.exe.  Almost sounds like a mingw32
type addition as opposed to a cygwin addition.

-eric

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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Chris Faylor]

On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 04:42:08PM -0800, Eric Christopher wrote:
>> Nope.  I just changed it for the Cygwin CD.
>
>Aaah.  Bitten by the too many release problem again. :)

FWIW, I plan on doing this for the next net release, too.

cgf

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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Eric Christopher]

> Nope.  I just changed it for the Cygwin CD.
> 

Aaah.  Bitten by the too many release problem again. :)

-eric

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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Chris Faylor]

On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 03:32:49PM -0800, Eric Christopher wrote:
>
>> Ahem, win32 already _IS_ the default as far as make itself is concerned.  If
>> one wants win32 as the default just remove the MAKE_MODE environment variable.
>
>I think cgf changed this in the development sources.  I'll have to wait
>for him top pop up and confirm this though.  I could just be nuts.

Nope.  I just changed it for the Cygwin CD.

cgf

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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Eric Christopher]

> Ahem, win32 already _IS_ the default as far as make itself is concerned.  If
> one wants win32 as the default just remove the MAKE_MODE environment variable.

I think cgf changed this in the development sources.  I'll have to wait
for him top pop up and confirm this though.  I could just be nuts.

While I'm on this type of bent, does anyone have an opinion on making
the filesystem case insensitive by default for MAKE_MODE = win32? 
Alternately it could be a flag or something.  Just wondering what people
thought.

> P.S.: Have a good weekend.

Thanks!

-eric

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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Earnie Boyd]

--- Eric Christopher <echristo@cygnus.com> wrote:
> I think the net version had an installer also. (of course i could be
> remembering something really old :)  But yeah, it does set it in the
> cygwin.bat file (there is no .bat file on the CD version).
> 
> Must be a bad week for cygnoids on the list - first dj and now me :)
> 
> At any rate, if people are interested in turning MAKE_MODE to win32 by
> default let me or dj know...  if i get enough people that are really
> irritated by the default being unix we can probably change it.
> 

Ahem, win32 already _IS_ the default as far as make itself is concerned.  If
one wants win32 as the default just remove the MAKE_MODE environment variable.

Regards,
Earnie.

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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Eric Christopher]

I think the net version had an installer also. (of course i could be
remembering something really old :)  But yeah, it does set it in the
cygwin.bat file (there is no .bat file on the CD version).

Must be a bad week for cygnoids on the list - first dj and now me :)

At any rate, if people are interested in turning MAKE_MODE to win32 by
default let me or dj know...  if i get enough people that are really
irritated by the default being unix we can probably change it.

-eric

> 
> Eric,
> 
> You're referring to the CD version installer, correct?  The net release b20.1
> installer used the cygwin.bat file to get it set.  There are a large number of
> people who are using Cygwin for the GNU GCC and shell user tools only.  They
> are not interested in the POSIX layer particularly.  These types should be
> redirected to the Mingw set of tools.  Take a look at some of the more recent
> topics at http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32/ for details on how mingw.org is
> aspiring.
> 
> Earnie.
> 
> --- Eric Christopher <echristo@cygnus.com> wrote:
> > MAKE_MODE = unix is the default that is shipped with the installer.  It
> > is thought that in most (all up to now that I've seen) cases people are
> > using cygwin to get a unixy environment.
> >
> > -eric
> >
> > >
> > > It looks like Earnie gets the award for asking important but obvious
> > > questions that I somehow didn't ask myself.  The magic environment variable
> > > seems to be MAKE_MODE, which needs to be set to UNIX.   This seems pretty
> > > obvious at first, but then I ask: Why should MAKE_MODE be UNIX when my PATH
> > > is in DOS format?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 10:17 AM
> > > To: Steven Schram
> > > Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> > > Subject: RE: why must cygwin be first in path?
> > >
> > > --- Steven Schram <sschram@aircell.com> wrote:
> > > > Basically as a porting layer so I can use GNU software.  Why do you ask?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I was trying to determine if you were using Cygwin for it's intended
> > purpose
> > > (adding a POSIX layer on top of Win32) or if you were just using it for the
> > > User Interface portion.  If you don't need the POSIX layer I was going to
> > > suggest that you look at Mingw and the links at
> > > http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32 .
> > >
> > > > I tested "sh -c make -f makefile.mk" and it does the same thing as
> > before.
> > > > I see the same results when executing from a bash shell started from a
> > cmd
> > > > shell.  If I execute bash from cygnus.bat pointed to by a shortcut, I
> > > don't
> > > > get the delay.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmm.  Interesting.  Are the environment variables that are set by the
> > > cygnus.bat file, already existing in your Win32 environment?
> > >
> > > > If I really want to chase this down, it looks like I will need to dive
> > > into
> > > > Make with gdb.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Possibly, but that would lead you to debugging Cygwin as well.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Earnie Boyd]

Eric,

You're referring to the CD version installer, correct?  The net release b20.1
installer used the cygwin.bat file to get it set.  There are a large number of
people who are using Cygwin for the GNU GCC and shell user tools only.  They
are not interested in the POSIX layer particularly.  These types should be
redirected to the Mingw set of tools.  Take a look at some of the more recent
topics at http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32/ for details on how mingw.org is
aspiring.

Earnie.

--- Eric Christopher <echristo@cygnus.com> wrote:
> MAKE_MODE = unix is the default that is shipped with the installer.  It
> is thought that in most (all up to now that I've seen) cases people are
> using cygwin to get a unixy environment.
> 
> -eric
> 
> > 
> > It looks like Earnie gets the award for asking important but obvious
> > questions that I somehow didn't ask myself.  The magic environment variable
> > seems to be MAKE_MODE, which needs to be set to UNIX.   This seems pretty
> > obvious at first, but then I ask: Why should MAKE_MODE be UNIX when my PATH
> > is in DOS format?
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 10:17 AM
> > To: Steven Schram
> > Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> > Subject: RE: why must cygwin be first in path?
> > 
> > --- Steven Schram <sschram@aircell.com> wrote:
> > > Basically as a porting layer so I can use GNU software.  Why do you ask?
> > >
> > 
> > I was trying to determine if you were using Cygwin for it's intended
> purpose
> > (adding a POSIX layer on top of Win32) or if you were just using it for the
> > User Interface portion.  If you don't need the POSIX layer I was going to
> > suggest that you look at Mingw and the links at
> > http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32 .
> > 
> > > I tested "sh -c make -f makefile.mk" and it does the same thing as
> before.
> > > I see the same results when executing from a bash shell started from a
> cmd
> > > shell.  If I execute bash from cygnus.bat pointed to by a shortcut, I
> > don't
> > > get the delay.
> > >
> > 
> > Hmm.  Interesting.  Are the environment variables that are set by the
> > cygnus.bat file, already existing in your Win32 environment?
> > 
> > > If I really want to chase this down, it looks like I will need to dive
> > into
> > > Make with gdb.
> > >
> > 
> > Possibly, but that would lead you to debugging Cygwin as well.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > =====
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> > Cygwin Newbies, please visit
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Re: MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Eric Christopher]

MAKE_MODE = unix is the default that is shipped with the installer.  It
is thought that in most (all up to now that I've seen) cases people are
using cygwin to get a unixy environment.

-eric

> 
> It looks like Earnie gets the award for asking important but obvious
> questions that I somehow didn't ask myself.  The magic environment variable
> seems to be MAKE_MODE, which needs to be set to UNIX.   This seems pretty
> obvious at first, but then I ask: Why should MAKE_MODE be UNIX when my PATH
> is in DOS format?
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 10:17 AM
> To: Steven Schram
> Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: RE: why must cygwin be first in path?
> 
> --- Steven Schram <sschram@aircell.com> wrote:
> > Basically as a porting layer so I can use GNU software.  Why do you ask?
> >
> 
> I was trying to determine if you were using Cygwin for it's intended purpose
> (adding a POSIX layer on top of Win32) or if you were just using it for the
> User Interface portion.  If you don't need the POSIX layer I was going to
> suggest that you look at Mingw and the links at
> http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32 .
> 
> > I tested "sh -c make -f makefile.mk" and it does the same thing as before.
> > I see the same results when executing from a bash shell started from a cmd
> > shell.  If I execute bash from cygnus.bat pointed to by a shortcut, I
> don't
> > get the delay.
> >
> 
> Hmm.  Interesting.  Are the environment variables that are set by the
> cygnus.bat file, already existing in your Win32 environment?
> 
> > If I really want to chase this down, it looks like I will need to dive
> into
> > Make with gdb.
> >
> 
> Possibly, but that would lead you to debugging Cygwin as well.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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MAKE_MODE=UNIX? was RE: why must cygwin be first in path?

[Steven Schram]

It looks like Earnie gets the award for asking important but obvious
questions that I somehow didn't ask myself.  The magic environment variable
seems to be MAKE_MODE, which needs to be set to UNIX.   This seems pretty
obvious at first, but then I ask: Why should MAKE_MODE be UNIX when my PATH
is in DOS format?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 10:17 AM
To: Steven Schram
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: RE: why must cygwin be first in path?


--- Steven Schram <sschram@aircell.com> wrote:
> Basically as a porting layer so I can use GNU software.  Why do you ask?
>

I was trying to determine if you were using Cygwin for it's intended purpose
(adding a POSIX layer on top of Win32) or if you were just using it for the
User Interface portion.  If you don't need the POSIX layer I was going to
suggest that you look at Mingw and the links at
http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32 .

> I tested "sh -c make -f makefile.mk" and it does the same thing as before.
> I see the same results when executing from a bash shell started from a cmd
> shell.  If I execute bash from cygnus.bat pointed to by a shortcut, I
don't
> get the delay.
>

Hmm.  Interesting.  Are the environment variables that are set by the
cygnus.bat file, already existing in your Win32 environment?

> If I really want to chase this down, it looks like I will need to dive
into
> Make with gdb.
>

Possibly, but that would lead you to debugging Cygwin as well.

Regards,

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