From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 49719 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 2016 19:45:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 49694 invoked by uid 89); 19 Nov 2016 19:45:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_MXURI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=H*RU:sk:omr-m00, Hx-spam-relays-external:sk:omr-m00, H*r:sk:omr-m00, HX-HELO:sk:omr-m00 X-HELO: omr-m007e.mx.aol.com Received: from omr-m007e.mx.aol.com (HELO omr-m007e.mx.aol.com) (204.29.186.9) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:45:51 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mbd01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbd01.mx.aol.com [172.26.252.13]) by omr-m007e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 04F9038000AA for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 14:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.200.215] (unknown [72.49.129.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbd01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 081AE380000AC for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 14:45:44 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: tprince@computer.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST) References: <56bd3cdc-34af-cc57-33cf-92ad5badaca2@cornell.edu> <95889942-402f-e820-2eb7-beb70453a647@aol.com> <2fbc0eb3-ea27-9a34-e42d-aae811e7d2f3@aol.com> <8840e74b-1dc0-c9f4-f72a-6d4026f126cc@cornell.edu> To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: Tim Prince Message-ID: <394b9a0d-2105-c68a-7472-2151d3d368a2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:39:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8840e74b-1dc0-c9f4-f72a-6d4026f126cc@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afc0d5830abe85e34 X-AOL-IP: 72.49.129.109 X-SW-Source: 2016-11/txt/msg00254.txt.bz2 On 11/19/2016 1:49 PM, Ken Brown wrote: > On 11/19/2016 10:50 AM, Tim Prince wrote: >> >> >> On 11/19/2016 9:41 AM, Ken Brown wrote: >>> [Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.] >>> >>> On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote: >>>>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin >>>>>>>>> distribution: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10: >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon >>>>>>>> disappears >>>>>>>> after a few seconds. May be missing the important user advice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons? It's a >>>>>>> black C superimposed over a green X. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ken >>>>>>> >>>>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use. >>>>> >>>>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it? >>>>> >>>> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation >>>> but >>>> not to open an xterm. >>> >>> I don't think we're talking about the same icon. The one I referred >>> to is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options >>> to start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools). It's started >>> by the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by >>> /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that >>> overrides it). Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running? >>> >>> >> I have occasionally got the xdg icon from which xterm can be started, >> but I haven't found a reproducible way to bring it up. > > Sorry, but I'm confused now. When you say "xdg icon", are you talking > about the one I described? Your previous message said you've never > seen that icon. Are you now saying that it does appear, but only > occasionally? Do you shut down the X server and retry when it doesn't > appear? > It seems necessary to reboot to get a clean start with no related processes, unless there's a magic cleanup command. I agree it may be necessary to try it from clean start. -- Tim Prince -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple