Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

[David A. Cobb]

Thanks, all, for the help yesterday.  It gave me just enough
knowledge (or rope) to shoot both feet off completely!  

I'm quoting Earnie Boyd's reply to my original post. -- Not all in
order.

>> [two minutes later . . .] AHA!
>> Something needs to be changed, my "HOME"=/home/superbiskit where I 
>> mount E:\HOME /home.  But my cygcheck output went to
>> E:\HOME\superbiskit\'\home\superbiskit\.
> 
> I noticed that, where did that come from?  Everything else looked good.
>

It came from an incredible mental gap.  I had /quoted/ things in my
Cygwin.bat thus "SET HOME='/home/superbiskit'"  The single quotes
simply passed through to Cygwin which treated them as path nodes.  

--- Quoting (or paraphrasing) DJ:
>  What setup are you using?

Downloaded SETUP.EXE yesterday (G 2000-08-02) from Cygwin.  Internal 
Time Date Stamp = "39877dd0".
Used mirror at sunsite.utk.edu. 

--- From Earnie again, various corrections of the error messages I
reported.  

I went back and did it all again and wrote them down more
carefully.  Could have used a log (some future release). 

1) "error: unable to create symlink" 
  a) C://usr/include/mingw -> mingw32    
     Note- I had indicated a backslant -- it isn't.
  b) C://lib/libc.a        -> libcygwin.a
  c) C://lib/libg.a        -> libcygwin.a [!]
  d) C://lib/libm.a        -> libcygwin.a [!!]
  e) C://bin/awk.exe       -> gawk.exe
  f) C://lib/libstdc++.a   -> libstdc++.a.2.10.0

2) "tar: can't find %1 to link %2 to"
  a) usr/bin/c++.exe          C://bin/g++.exe
  b) usr/bin/gcc.exe          C://bin/i686-pc-cygwin-gcc.exe
  c) usr/bin/logger.exe       C://bin/syslog.exe
  d) usr/bin/ctags.exe        C://bin/etags.exe

Plus many many of both messages in the "vim" install - too many to
write down.

At the end "Can't open (null) for writing: \n No such file or
directory"

OK, here's the latest.

I thought (first error) that having my mounts textmode could be a
problem, so I changed them all to "mount -b -s -f"
Then I deleted _everything_ remotely related to the cygwin
installation except the "Mounts_V2" registry entries.  

I reran SETUP again - usually from <sunsite.utk.edu>, twice
<ygdrassl?>, once <freesoftware>.  That's many times.  When all has
been said and done, THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL IN /bin (or in /usr/bin,
or in any directory except /lib -- and that may be a leftover. 
Evidently, setup thinks all the current versions are still there! 
It didn't look to check. 

Now here is a real kicker -- nearly all of the same error messages
came up at the same points.  I think the complaints about the
/lib/libc.a did not.  SETUP cannot find the same things when it
shouldn't be able to find anything at all anywhere!

Just in case it could have been misplaced, I did a Windows FIND on
*ash.exe" which should have two or more hits.  It had none.  

This is like two squares before square one.  Obviously I need help.



>Cheers,
>
>=====
>---
>   Earnie Boyd: < mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com >

Not much cheer today!

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Re: Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

[DJ Delorie]

To force a re-install, you have to delete /etc/setup/installed.db

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Re: Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

[David A. Cobb]

DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> To force a re-install, you have to delete /etc/setup/installed.db
> 
> --

Yup, did that.  In fact, I deleted the whole /etc/setup tree, saving
only the things like /etc/passwd that I didn't want to recreate.

QUESTION: What should the "flags" value be in the Windows Registry
for the binary system mount points.  I have "0x0000000A (10)" based
on copying one that appeared correct.

Today, once again, the result was installing everything into the
black hole.  My /bin is empty, my /usr/% is empty.  My /head, I'm
not too sure about. 
Have a good weekend!
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David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate
"Don't buy or use crappy software"
"By the grace of God I am a Christian man, 
 by my actions a great sinner" -- The Way of a Pilgrim [R.M.French,
tr.]

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Re: Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

[DJ Delorie]

> Yup, did that.  In fact, I deleted the whole /etc/setup tree, saving
> only the things like /etc/passwd that I didn't want to recreate.

You only need to delete /etc/setup/installed.db

> QUESTION: What should the "flags" value be in the Windows Registry
> for the binary system mount points.  I have "0x0000000A (10)" based
> on copying one that appeared correct.

Um, sounds right, but I never use them directly.  Use [u]mount to
add/remove/view mounts. Look in <sys/mount.h> for details.

> Today, once again, the result was installing everything into the
> black hole.  My /bin is empty, my /usr/% is empty.  My /head, I'm
> not too sure about. 

Are you installing as administrator, or an unpriviledged user?

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Re: Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

[David A. Cobb]

DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> > Yup, did that.  In fact, I deleted the whole /etc/setup tree, saving
> > only the things like /etc/passwd that I didn't want to recreate.
> 
> You only need to delete /etc/setup/installed.db

Too late now.

> 
> > QUESTION: What should the "flags" value be in the Windows Registry
> > for the binary system mount points.  I have "0x0000000A (10)" based
> > on copying one that appeared correct.
> 
> Um, sounds right, but I never use them directly.  Use [u]mount to
> add/remove/view mounts. Look in <sys/mount.h> for details.
> 

I cannot look /anywhere/, that's the problem.

> > Today, once again, the result was installing everything into the
> > black hole.  My /bin is empty, my /usr/% is empty.  My /head, I'm
> > not too sure about.
> 
> Are you installing as administrator, or an unpriviledged user?

Windows-98, I have my own login [HKCU branch] via Windows Family
Login, but the system doesn't recognize privilege. 

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"Don't buy or use crappy software"
"By the grace of God I am a Christian man, 
 by my actions a great sinner" -- The Way of a Pilgrim [R. M.
French, tr.]

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Re: Well, now I've really done it. [Was: Installation problems]

[Chris Faylor]

On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 05:47:56PM -0400, David A. Cobb wrote:
>DJ Delorie wrote:
>> 
>> > Yup, did that.  In fact, I deleted the whole /etc/setup tree, saving
>> > only the things like /etc/passwd that I didn't want to recreate.
>> 
>> You only need to delete /etc/setup/installed.db
>
>Too late now.

You probably should search your entire disk for an "installed.db" file.
If your root mount is screwed up somwhow, then it could be somewhere strange.

cgf

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SOLVED! [Was: Well, now I've really done it.]

[David A. Cobb]

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"David A. Cobb" wrote:
> 
> Thanks, all, for the help yesterday.  It gave me just enough
> knowledge (or rope) to shoot both feet off completely!
> 
> --- Quoting (or paraphrasing) DJ:
> >  What setup are you using?
> 
> Downloaded SETUP.EXE yesterday (G 2000-08-02) from Cygwin.  Internal
> Time Date Stamp = "39877dd0".
> Used mirror at sunsite.utk.edu.
> 
> --- From Earnie again, various corrections of the error messages I
> reported.
> 
> I went back and did it all again and wrote them down more
> carefully.  Could have used a log (some future release).
> 
> 1) "error: unable to create symlink"
>   a) C://usr/include/mingw -> mingw32
>      Note- I had indicated a backslant -- it isn't.
>   b) C://lib/libc.a        -> libcygwin.a
>   c) C://lib/libg.a        -> libcygwin.a [!]
>   d) C://lib/libm.a        -> libcygwin.a [!!]
>   e) C://bin/awk.exe       -> gawk.exe
>   f) C://lib/libstdc++.a   -> libstdc++.a.2.10.0
> 
> 2) "tar: can't find %1 to link %2 to"
>   a) usr/bin/c++.exe          C://bin/g++.exe
>   b) usr/bin/gcc.exe          C://bin/i686-pc-cygwin-gcc.exe
>   c) usr/bin/logger.exe       C://bin/syslog.exe
>   d) usr/bin/ctags.exe        C://bin/etags.exe
> 
> Plus many many of both messages in the "vim" install - too many to
> write down.
> 
> At the end "Can't open (null) for writing: \n No such file or
> directory"
> 
> OK, here's the latest.
> 
> I thought (first error) that having my mounts textmode could be a
> problem, so I changed them all to "mount -b -s -f"
> Then I deleted _everything_ remotely related to the cygwin
> installation except the "Mounts_V2" registry entries.
> 
> I reran SETUP again - usually from <sunsite.utk.edu>, twice
> <ygdrassl?>, once <freesoftware>.  That's many times.  When all has
> been said and done, THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL IN /bin (or in /usr/bin,
> or in any directory except /lib -- and that may be a leftover.
> Evidently, setup thinks all the current versions are still there!
> It didn't look to check.
> 
> Now here is a real kicker -- nearly all of the same error messages
> came up at the same points.  I think the complaints about the
> /lib/libc.a did not.  SETUP cannot find the same things when it
> shouldn't be able to find anything at all anywhere!
> 
> Just in case it could have been misplaced, I did a Windows FIND on
> *ash.exe" which should have two or more hits.  It had none.
> 
> This is like two squares before square one.  Obviously I need help.
> 

OK, guys, it's fixed, if not quite the way I might like.

I deleted the whole registry key containing existing cygwin mounts,
and went back to zero.  Then, in SETUP.EXE, I did _NOT_ use my C:\
as root, I used a directory name "C:\@" (mostly because is sorts
low).

Everything downloaded and installed correctly, I can get into bash
and launch a few things that I know how to use.  

OK, DJ, I know I was warned.

Obviously, the "C://bin" display in the previous case was the key.  
The "//" must be a black hole.  
I'll take a look myself, come Monday.

Good weekend again!

-- 
David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate
"Don't buy or use crappy software"
"By the grace of God I am a Christian man, 
 by my actions a great sinner" -- The Way of a Pilgrim [R. M.
French, tr.]
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