AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[lw]

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Klaus, Gerrit,

 >>  >What can/must i do so "ls" (and maybe other tools/commands)
 >> also displays the
 >>  >German umlauts correct.
 >>
 >> Use "ls -N" or "ls --literal" (see ls --help), then the output
 >> is ok. (At least for ls)
 >>
 >
 >Sorry, but this does not work for me, i still get the output with
 >the ? instead of the correct umlauts.

Strange. This is the output on my W2k machine:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
$ touch test-äöüß

lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
$ ls -l
total 0
-rw-r--r--   1 lw       Kein            0 Jan  4 22:38 test-????

lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
$ ls -lN
total 0
-rw-r--r--   1 lw       Kein            0 Jan  4 22:38 test-äöüß

lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
$ ls --version
ls (GNU fileutils) 3.16
-----------------------------------------------------------------

The same happens on my Win98 PC.
Did you perhaps type "ls -n" instead of "ls -N" ?

Just an experiment: type "ls -b" and see if the "funny chars" are
quoted then.

lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
$ ls -lb
total 0
-rw-r--r--   1 lw       Kein            0 Jan  4 22:38 test-\344\366\374\337


Bei mir funzts, Gerrit... ;-)

- Lars


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Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Gerrit P. Haase]

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Klaus, Lars,

> 
> lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
> $ ls --version
> ls (GNU fileutils) 3.16
> -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmm,
$ ls --version
ls (GNU fileutils) 4.0
                  ^^^^^  maybe a bug?

> The same happens on my Win98 PC.
> Did you perhaps type "ls -n" instead of "ls -N" ?

No.

> Just an experiment: type "ls -b" and see if the "funny chars" are
> quoted then.
> 
> lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
> $ ls -lb
> total 0
> -rw-r--r--   1 lw       Kein            0 Jan  4 22:38 test-\344\366\374\337
> 
> Bei mir funzts, Gerrit... ;-)

Hmmm,

$ ls -b
siebenschlaefer  \330\322\300\330\301\300\322\330

$ ls -lb
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   8 administ Administ   8192 Jan  4 06:58 siebenschlaefer
- -rwxrwxrwx   1 administ Administ      9 Jan  4 23:48 \330\322\300\330\301\300\322\330

$ ls -N
siebenschlaefer  ????????

$ ls -lN
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   8 administ Administ     8192 Jan  4 23:52 siebenschlaefer
- -rwxrwxrwx   1 administ Administ        9 Jan  4 23:48 ????????

Lars, what do you got for settings in .inputrc?
And what relevant is in .bashrc?

Ciao,

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Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Christopher Abbey]

Tomorrow, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
> $ ls -N
> siebenschlaefer  ????????

Check what font you're using for the window, and/or the console
codepage depending on how you're starting bash. The best test
I've found to date is to start a raw command / cmd shell and
make sure you can display the characters with dir, then run cygwin.bat
in that shell and ls -N al of a sudden worked. :) For me it was the
font... but if all you get is '?' it might be the codepage.

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Re: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Gerrit P. Haase]

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<5 Jan 2001, 0:00 Uhr wars, als Christopher Abbey folgendes schrub:>
< Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with b >

> Tomorrow, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
> > $ ls -N
> > siebenschlaefer  ????????
>
> Check what font you're using for the window, and/or the console
> codepage depending on how you're starting bash. The best test
> I've found to date is to start a raw command / cmd shell and
> make sure you can display the characters with dir, then run cygwin.bat
> in that shell and ls -N al of a sudden worked. :) For me it was the
> font... but if all you get is '?' it might be the codepage.
>

No, we got it, fileutils (ls) 4.0 is different, with new options.

 ls --show-control-chars

this is a new one, and with this option it works fine:)

$ ls --show-control-chars
siebenschlaefer  üöäÜÅÄÖÜ

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AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[klaus.berndl]

>  >What can/must i do so "ls" (and maybe other tools/commands) 
> also displays the
>  >German umlauts correct.
> 
> Use "ls -N" or "ls --literal" (see ls --help), then the output
> is ok. (At least for ls)
> 

Sorry, but this does not work for me, i still get the output with
the ? instead of the correct umlauts.

Klaus

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AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[lw]

Hi Klaus,

 >What can/must i do so "ls" (and maybe other tools/commands) also displays the
 >German umlauts correct.

Use "ls -N" or "ls --literal" (see ls --help), then the output
is ok. (At least for ls)

 >For example less displays the German umlauts if i do "export LESSCHARSET=latin1".

Thank you for the tip.

 >>  >What to do so i can type German umlauts on the bash-command-line?
 >>
 >> Don't know, this does not work yet.
 >
 >Yes, this works, look above to the ~./inputrc

You are right, thank you again.

- Lars


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Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Gerrit P. Haase]

<2 Jan 2001, 19:59 Uhr wars, als lw@computerwuerfel.de folgendes schrub:>
< AW: Using German Umlauts with bash >

> Hi Klaus,
> 
>  >What can/must i do so "ls" (and maybe other tools/commands) also displays the
>  >German umlauts correct.
> 
> Use "ls -N" or "ls --literal" (see ls --help), then the output
> is ok. (At least for ls)

Funzt nicht bei mir...

Doesn't work for me...

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AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[klaus.berndl]

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> I have version 1.1.7 installed. All umlauts display ok with 
> this version.

Ok, i have installed latest Cygwin 1.1.7 and i have created a ~/.inputrc
with the following contents:

set meta-flag on
set convert-meta off
set output-meta on
#set show-all-if-ambiguous on

I have found this in the mailing-archive and it works well for typing
German umlauts. Now i can do

"touch This-Is-A-File-With-One-Umlaut-ä" (last character is the German "a)

Ok, if i then type

"more This-Is-<TAB>"

means i do TAB-completion then bash expands correct to 
"more This-Is-A-File-With-One-Umlaut-ä"

But if i do an "ls" or an "ls -lA" in this directory the dir-list is displayed

...
-rw-r--r-- 1 administ Kein  0 Jan  2 10:43 This-Is-A-File-With-One-Ulaut-?
...

Please note the ? instead of the correct ä (German "a).

What can/must i do so "ls" (and maybe other tools/commands) also displays the
German umlauts correct.

For example less displays the German umlauts if i do "export LESSCHARSET=latin1".
Is there maybe something similar for bash?

> 
>  >What to do so i can type German umlauts on the bash-command-line?
> 
> Don't know, this does not work yet.

Yes, this works, look above to the ~./inputrc

> IMO you should avoid using umlauts in filenames. This often
> causes problems, not only concerning cygwin...

Yes, i agree but often i must read foreign files and directories...

Thanks,
Klaus

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