bigger window pls

bigger window pls

[hongxun lee]

Thanks for your contributions, Cygwin-developers!
Could you pls make the 'select packages'-window (and fonts) bigger
(maximizable) for next release?

Thanks again


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Re: bigger window pls

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 06:20:54PM -0400, hongxun lee wrote:
>Thanks for your contributions, Cygwin-developers!
>Could you pls make the 'select packages'-window (and fonts) bigger
>(maximizable) for next release?

Sigh.

cgf

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Re: bigger window pls

[Eric Butler]

Why not just make it resizeable?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Faylor" <cgf@redhat.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: bigger window pls


> On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 06:20:54PM -0400, hongxun lee wrote:
> >Thanks for your contributions, Cygwin-developers!
> >Could you pls make the 'select packages'-window (and fonts) bigger
> >(maximizable) for next release?
> 
> Sigh.
> 
> cgf
> 
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Re: bigger window pls

[Robert Collins]

On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 11:57, Eric Butler wrote:
> Why not just make it resizeable?

That's a novel idea. Here's a clue: It's not trivial. Or if it is, Gary
( our win32 gui guru ) doesn't know the necessary bits to twiddle ( and
that would surprise me... I do like surprises if you're able to give me
one here, please do).

It's in the TODO.
It's been discussed as a major nuisance on cygwin-apps quite recently.

So I've a question for you.

Why not contribute?

Rob


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Re: bigger window pls

[Randall R Schulz]

Rob,

At 19:03 2002-07-20, Robert Collins wrote:
>On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 11:57, Eric Butler wrote:
> > Why not just make it resizeable?
>
>That's a novel idea. Here's a clue: It's not trivial. ...
>
>It's in the TODO.
>It's been discussed as a major nuisance on cygwin-apps quite recently.
>
>So I've a question for you.
>
>Why not contribute?


'Cause he's mean.

It's catching.


>Rob


Randall


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Re: bigger window pls

[Robert Collins]

On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 12:52, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Rob,
> 
> At 19:03 2002-07-20, Robert Collins wrote:
> >On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 11:57, Eric Butler wrote:
> > > Why not just make it resizeable?
> >
> >That's a novel idea. Here's a clue: It's not trivial. ...
> >
> >It's in the TODO.
> >It's been discussed as a major nuisance on cygwin-apps quite recently.
> >
> >So I've a question for you.
> >
> >Why not contribute?
> 
> 
> 'Cause he's mean.

Snort!. That there's our line!

Rob


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Re: bigger window pls

[Eric Butler]

Sorry, I'm not a C++ guy or I would. 
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From: "Robert Collins" <robert.collins@syncretize.net>
To: "Eric Butler" <eric@extremeboredom.net>
Cc: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: bigger window pls


> On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 11:57, Eric Butler wrote:
> > Why not just make it resizeable?
> 
> That's a novel idea. Here's a clue: It's not trivial. Or if it is, Gary
> ( our win32 gui guru ) doesn't know the necessary bits to twiddle ( and
> that would surprise me... I do like surprises if you're able to give me
> one here, please do).
> 
> It's in the TODO.
> It's been discussed as a major nuisance on cygwin-apps quite recently.
> 
> So I've a question for you.
> 
> Why not contribute?
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
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Re: bigger window pls

[Nils Boeffel]

Robert Collins wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 11:57, Eric Butler wrote:
>>Why not just make it resizeable?
> 
> That's a novel idea. Here's a clue: It's not trivial. Or if it is, Gary
> ( our win32 gui guru ) doesn't know the necessary bits to twiddle ( and
> that would surprise me... I do like surprises if you're able to give me
> one here, please do).
> 
> It's in the TODO.
> It's been discussed as a major nuisance on cygwin-apps quite recently.

There are two comments to this.

1. I had the same complaint until I discovered /usr/bin/rxvt.exe 
(category: shells) which works beautifully for me and is resizable.  I 
still haven't figured out how to use a different font (I can resize 
fixed, but don't know where to find other fonts that are installed) and 
can't figure out how to paste using only a two button mouse. 
Suggestions, anyone?  Other than that, it's great.  Documenting this in 
the FAQ would be good since I assume this complaint is common.

2. If you need an example of how to make a windows app resizable, I'd 
suggest looking at the putty source code (google: putty homepage 
download).  I use it for all my telnet/ssh'ing from windows, and it 
works great.  That might make the task easier if someone wants to tackle it.

Cygwin's really made my forced windows exile much more bearable, and 
with rxvt, even pleasant.  Now if I could only find a decent VWM (that 
works with XP)...

Regards,
Nils.



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Re: bigger window pls

[Robert Collins]

On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 11:36, Nils Boeffel wrote:
> Robert Collins wrote:
> There are two comments to this.
> 
> 1. I had the same complaint until I discovered /usr/bin/rxvt.exe 
> (category: shells) which works beautifully for me and is resizable.  I 
> still haven't figured out how to use a different font (I can resize 
> fixed, but don't know where to find other fonts that are installed) and 
> can't figure out how to paste using only a two button mouse. 
> Suggestions, anyone?  Other than that, it's great.  Documenting this in 
> the FAQ would be good since I assume this complaint is common.

You didn't have the same complaint - rxvt is for use when cygwin is
fully installed, the complaint in question is the size of the setup.exe
windows, which are used to perform the installation.
 
> 2. If you need an example of how to make a windows app resizable, I'd 
> suggest looking at the putty source code (google: putty homepage 
> download).  I use it for all my telnet/ssh'ing from windows, and it 
> works great.  That might make the task easier if someone wants to tackle it.

Thanks for the hint. However, I do know how to make resizable windows.
The problem isn't simply resizing a single window - it's scaling out all
the elements on this particular window in a sane fashion - for all of
the setup.exe dialog windows, within the framework of the MS
tabbed/paged dialog, on the fly. Putty is trivial by comparison, by it's
very nature.

Cheers,
Rob


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Re: bigger window pls

[Nils Boeffel]

Robert Collins wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 11:36, Nils Boeffel wrote:
>>Robert Collins wrote:
>>There are two comments to this.
>>
>>1. I had the same complaint until I discovered /usr/bin/rxvt.exe 
>>(category: shells) which works beautifully for me and is resizable.  I 
>>still haven't figured out how to use a different font (I can resize 
>>fixed, but don't know where to find other fonts that are installed) and 
>>can't figure out how to paste using only a two button mouse. 
>>Suggestions, anyone?  Other than that, it's great.  Documenting this in 
>>the FAQ would be good since I assume this complaint is common.
> 
> 
> You didn't have the same complaint - rxvt is for use when cygwin is
> fully installed, the complaint in question is the size of the setup.exe
> windows, which are used to perform the installation.

Ah. Sorry.  Guess that's what happens when you read threads in reverse 
chronological order :)  I thought you were talking about the resizing of 
the cygwin shell and not the install window.

Does anyone have suggestions about my rxvt cut-n-paste or font question 
above?  I didn't see it in the list archives.

Thanks,
Nils.




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Re: bigger window pls

[Randall R Schulz]

Nils,

The man page answers the font question. "Rxvt -help" will do in a pinch 
(note: "rxvt --help" gives different information, not option help).

Why have a two-button mouse?

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 19:05 2002-07-21, Nils Boeffel wrote:
>...
>
>Does anyone have suggestions about my rxvt cut-n-paste or font question 
>above?  I didn't see it in the list archives.
>
>Thanks,
>Nils.


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Re: bigger window pls

[Nils Boeffel]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Nils,
> 
> The man page answers the font question. "Rxvt -help" will do in a pinch 
> (note: "rxvt --help" gives different information, not option help).

Did that but I can't see where to look for a list of installed fonts.  I 
just came across /usr/doc/Cygwin/rxvt*.README and it has some font 
suggestions in there, but they don't work.  Using Lucinda gives me the 
right font and height, but the width is enormous: the character width is 
OK but the space between them is about 5 times what it should be.  Any 
ideas on this?

The impression I get is that the font doesn't exist; giving -fn 
"courier-16" works fine.


> Why have a two-button mouse?

That's what the laptop has with it's touchpad...

Nils.



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Re: bigger window pls

[Michael Hoffman]

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Nils Boeffel wrote:

> Does anyone have suggestions about my rxvt cut-n-paste or font question
> above?  I didn't see it in the list archives.

To paste, use Shift-Insert or Ctrl-Mouse-1 (left button). There is also
information in the archives and on the web about how to set some other key
(i.e. just Insert.)
-- 
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The University of Texas at Austin


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Re: bigger window pls

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Nils Boeffel <nils.boeffel@alumni.insead.edu> wrote:
> Does anyone have suggestions about my rxvt cut-n-paste or font question 
> above?  I didn't see it in the list archives.
> 
That's strange, it was discussed a few times in the past...  But then
again, I never really did like ht://Dig in the first place.  Since your
font question was answered, here is how to cut&paste:

1)There is no "cutting" from the rxvt window, however if you use the left
mouse button to highlight the text, it will be automatically copied to the
windows clipboard.

2)Pasting to rxvt is easy as pie with a two button mouse.  Just hold shift
and press the left mouse button once.  It will paste the contents of the
clipboard to the terminal.  Two caveats:

A)The more text there is to be pasted, the longer it will take for it to
appear, so be patient.

B)Do not paste more than half of a page of text at a time, otherwise you
run the risk of locking up rxvt.  This will vary based on your os, so
YMMV.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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RE: bigger window pls

[Robert Collins]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wourms
> Sent: Monday, 22 July 2002 5:17 PM

> B)Do not paste more than half of a page of text at a time, 
> otherwise you
> run the risk of locking up rxvt.  This will vary based on your os, so
> YMMV.

Or you can read the contents of /dev/clipboard into your current editor,
and avoid this issue. HOW to do that is left as an exercise.

Rob


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Re: bigger window pls

[news]

On 22 Jul 2002, Robert Collins <robert.collins@syncretize.net> 
wrote: 

> I do know how to make 
> resizable windows. The problem isn't simply resizing a 
> single window - it's scaling out all the elements on this 
> particular window in a sane fashion 

You might like to look at 
http://www.codeguru.com/dialog/Geometry.shtml or more 
generally the "Resizable Dialogs" section of 
http://www.codeguru.com/dialog/index.shtml. Yes, most if not 
all of the examples are MFC but since MFC does not do anything 
that is not possible via the Win32 API this should not be a 
problem. I can guess what you are going to say next, but I 
suggest that you see 
<5.1.0.14.2.20020720195035.01f898c0@pop3.cris.com> for my 
response.

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Re: bigger window pls

[Randall R Schulz]

Nils,

Stick to monospaced fonts. I like "Lucida Console" in both RXVT and in the 
console window.

Randall


At 20:56 2002-07-21, you wrote:
>Randall R Schulz wrote:
>>Nils,
>>The man page answers the font question. "Rxvt -help" will do in a pinch 
>>(note: "rxvt --help" gives different information, not option help).
>
>Did that but I can't see where to look for a list of installed fonts.  I 
>just came across /usr/doc/Cygwin/rxvt*.README and it has some font 
>suggestions in there, but they don't work.  Using Lucinda gives me the 
>right font and height, but the width is enormous: the character width is 
>OK but the space between them is about 5 times what it should be.  Any 
>ideas on this?
>
>The impression I get is that the font doesn't exist; giving -fn 
>"courier-16" works fine.
>
>
>>Why have a two-button mouse?
>
>That's what the laptop has with it's touchpad...
>
>Nils.


Randy 


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Re: bigger window pls

[Nils Boeffel]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Nils,
> 
> Stick to monospaced fonts. I like "Lucida Console" in both RXVT and in 
> the console window.

*THWAP!* "Lucida" != "Lucinda".  -fn "Lucida Console-14" works great. 
Don't ask me where the name "Lucinda" comes from...

Thanks.
Nils.



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