download the older version of openssh

download the older version of openssh

[Arnold Wang]

Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 3.5p1-3,
of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the latest
version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, like net
commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   


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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Larry Hall]

Arnold Wang wrote:

> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 3.5p1-3,
> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the latest
> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, like net
> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   


I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
solution?


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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Doug VanLeuven]

Larry Hall wrote:

> Arnold Wang wrote:
>
>> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>> 3.5p1-3,
>> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>> latest
>> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>> like net
>> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>
>
> I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
> mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
> a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
> solution?

That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?

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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Larry Hall]

Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> Larry Hall wrote:
> 
>> Arnold Wang wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>>> 3.5p1-3,
>>> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>>> latest
>>> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>>> like net
>>> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>>
>>
>>
>> I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
>> mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
>> a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
>> solution?
> 
> 
> That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
> I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
> Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?


Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send it to anyone
other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I expect that you were
only asking if Arnold would like to receive this attachment and not the
entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)

To the extent that having this older version of the package "resurface"
adversely affects the likelihood that the problem with the current version
will get tracked down, I've little enthusiasm for it.  However, for
those that may use it to help pinpoint the problem, I laud the
effort.



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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Doug VanLeuven]

Larry Hall wrote:

> Doug VanLeuven wrote:
>
>> Larry Hall wrote:
>>
>>> Arnold Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>>>> 3.5p1-3,
>>>> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>>>> latest
>>>> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>>>> like net
>>>> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>>>
>>> I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
>>> mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
>>> a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
>>> solution?
>>
>> That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
>> I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
>> Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?
>
> Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send it to anyone
> other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I expect that you were
> only asking if Arnold would like to receive this attachment and not the
> entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)

Ok Dad.  Didn't mean to scare anyone.
Actually, the only reason I cc'd the list was on the off chance someone 
might
contribute the proper way to include it so setup could revert it.
I've never done that.

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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Larry Hall]

Doug VanLeuven wrote:

> Larry Hall wrote:
> 
>> Doug VanLeuven wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arnold Wang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>>>>> 3.5p1-3,
>>>>> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>>>>> latest
>>>>> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>>>>> like net
>>>>> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
>>>> mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
>>>> a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
>>>> solution?
>>>
>>>
>>> That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
>>> I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
>>> Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?
>>
>>
>> Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send it to anyone
>> other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I expect that you were
>> only asking if Arnold would like to receive this attachment and not the
>> entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)
> 
> 
> Ok Dad.  Didn't mean to scare anyone.
> Actually, the only reason I cc'd the list was on the off chance someone 
> might
> contribute the proper way to include it so setup could revert it.
> I've never done that.
> 


It would be available for folks to optionally revert to if it were still
available on the mirrors.  If a package maintainer feels that a particular
problem is so terrible that the proper short-term patch is to revert the
package, that can be accomplished via setup by the maintainer creating
a new package with a later Cygwin version number but earlier code.
However, I don't think that applies in this case since the OpenSSH versions in
question are different (3.5 versus 3.6).  In this case, the maintainer
would have to explicitly state what the current version is in setup.hint.
But this is all at the discretion of the package maintainer.

At this point, I haven't seen anything yet that signifies whether the
problem is related to the OpenSSH version or something else.  If someone
who has access to the older OpenSSH package wants to (carefully) install
it to see if it makes a difference in this case, that would be worthwhile
feedback for this list.  Otherwise debugging the problem in the current
version is the proper way to a long-term solution.  Stepping back, even if
it's an option, is a stop-gap solution at best.  Anyone who can help with
the long-term solution to this problem is heartily encouraged to do so. :-)



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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Max Bowsher]

Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> Actually, the only reason I cc'd the list was on the off chance someone
> might contribute the proper way to include it so setup could revert it.
> I've never done that.

OK, here goes...

You need the correct entries for a setup.ini. This means you must do one of
the following:
* Recover the entries from an old setup.ini.
* Manually synthesize the required entries.
* Run upset on your computer to automatically prepare a setup.ini.

Once you have the entries, you can create a setup.ini. Rather than grafting
it into the main file, I prefer to set up a subtree in my local package
directory to hold self-built or under-review packages. I create a directory
misc as a sibling to release, and generate a setup.ini in that directory.
The paths in install/source statements are relative to the setup.ini file
containing them.

Here is an example fragment from my misc/setup.ini:

setup-timestamp: 1000000000

@ gcc
category: Misc
version: 3.3-20030515-1max
install: ./gcc/gcc-3.3-20030515-1max.tar.bz2 4552469
2050d629c09ff779d639716513016edd
source: ./gcc/gcc-3.3-20030515-1max-src.tar.bz2 13073638
a7b11982174c17a431f0412f3204efa2




Max.


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RE: download the older version of openssh

[DePriest, Jason R.]

Installing the older version does make a difference.
I am using the installers from http://lexa.mckenna.edu/sshwindows/ on
remote systems.

Using the 20030512 build which includes sshd version 3.6.1p1-1 led to
the problems described previously.
Reverting to the 20030203 build (ssh 3.5p1-3) immediately fixed the
problems.

-Jason

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Hall [mailto:cygwin-lh@cygwin.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:16 PM
> To: Doug VanLeuven
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: download the older version of openssh
> 
> 
> Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> 
> > Larry Hall wrote:
> > 
> >> Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> >>
> >>> Larry Hall wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Arnold Wang wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the 
> older version, 
> >>>>> 3.5p1-3,
> >>>>> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm 
> experiencing. With the 
> >>>>> latest
> >>>>> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console 
> applications, 
> >>>>> like net
> >>>>> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh 
> session.   
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there 
> is a very dated
> >>>> mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in 
> tracking this problem
> >>>> a little more closely in an effort to localize the 
> problem and find a
> >>>> solution?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
> >>> I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
> >>> Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?
> >>
> >>
> >> Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send 
> it to anyone
> >> other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I 
> expect that you were
> >> only asking if Arnold would like to receive this 
> attachment and not the
> >> entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > Ok Dad.  Didn't mean to scare anyone.
> > Actually, the only reason I cc'd the list was on the off 
> chance someone 
> > might
> > contribute the proper way to include it so setup could revert it.
> > I've never done that.
> > 
> 
> 
> It would be available for folks to optionally revert to if it 
> were still
> available on the mirrors.  If a package maintainer feels that 
> a particular
> problem is so terrible that the proper short-term patch is to 
> revert the
> package, that can be accomplished via setup by the maintainer creating
> a new package with a later Cygwin version number but earlier code.
> However, I don't think that applies in this case since the 
> OpenSSH versions in
> question are different (3.5 versus 3.6).  In this case, the maintainer
> would have to explicitly state what the current version is in 
> setup.hint.
> But this is all at the discretion of the package maintainer.
> 
> At this point, I haven't seen anything yet that signifies whether the
> problem is related to the OpenSSH version or something else.  
> If someone
> who has access to the older OpenSSH package wants to 
> (carefully) install
> it to see if it makes a difference in this case, that would 
> be worthwhile
> feedback for this list.  Otherwise debugging the problem in 
> the current
> version is the proper way to a long-term solution.  Stepping 
> back, even if
> it's an option, is a stop-gap solution at best.  Anyone who 
> can help with
> the long-term solution to this problem is heartily encouraged 
> to do so. :-)
> 
> 
> 
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> 838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9889 - FAX
> Holliston, MA 01746
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RE: download the older version of openssh

[Arnold Wang]

It did fix my problem, which is the output of some NT console applications,
like "net start", is surpressed through ssh session. Based on the google
searchs I did, it appeared to me that it was a problem and was fixed, I
assume by version 3.5, now the problem came back again with 3.6. Is there
anyone on the list can confirm this?  

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Hall [mailto:cygwin-lh@cygwin.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Arnold Wang
Cc: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
Subject: Re: download the older version of openssh


That's fine.  Actually, it would be worthwhile to hear what the result
of this reveals (i.e. does it work or not).  Please let the list know
whether the 3.5 version solves the problem for you.

Thanks,

Larry

Arnold Wang wrote:

> I agree in principle that I should have the problem fixed rather going
back
> to the older version. However, I posted the question to this list several
> days ago and haven't received any replies. I need a solution now so I can
> have a working environment to have some real works done and the best
> solution I can find now is going back to an older version. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Hall [mailto:cygwin-lh@cygwin.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:25 AM
> To: Doug VanLeuven
> Cc: Arnold Wang; cygwin-list
> Subject: Re: download the older version of openssh
> 
> 
> Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> 
>>Larry Hall wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Arnold Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>>>>3.5p1-3,
>>>>of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>>>>latest
>>>>version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>>>>like net
>>>>commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
>>>mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
>>>a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
>>>solution?
>>
>>
>>That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
>>I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
>>Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?
> 
> 
> 
> Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send it to anyone
> other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I expect that you were
> only asking if Arnold would like to receive this attachment and not the
> entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)
> 
> To the extent that having this older version of the package "resurface"
> adversely affects the likelihood that the problem with the current version
> will get tracked down, I've little enthusiasm for it.  However, for
> those that may use it to help pinpoint the problem, I laud the
> effort.
> 
> 
> 




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Re: download the older version of openssh

[Larry Hall]

That's fine.  Actually, it would be worthwhile to hear what the result
of this reveals (i.e. does it work or not).  Please let the list know
whether the 3.5 version solves the problem for you.

Thanks,

Larry

Arnold Wang wrote:

> I agree in principle that I should have the problem fixed rather going back
> to the older version. However, I posted the question to this list several
> days ago and haven't received any replies. I need a solution now so I can
> have a working environment to have some real works done and the best
> solution I can find now is going back to an older version. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Hall [mailto:cygwin-lh@cygwin.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:25 AM
> To: Doug VanLeuven
> Cc: Arnold Wang; cygwin-list
> Subject: Re: download the older version of openssh
> 
> 
> Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> 
>>Larry Hall wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Arnold Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>>>>3.5p1-3,
>>>>of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>>>>latest
>>>>version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>>>>like net
>>>>commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
>>>mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
>>>a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
>>>solution?
>>
>>
>>That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
>>I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
>>Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?
> 
> 
> 
> Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send it to anyone
> other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I expect that you were
> only asking if Arnold would like to receive this attachment and not the
> entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)
> 
> To the extent that having this older version of the package "resurface"
> adversely affects the likelihood that the problem with the current version
> will get tracked down, I've little enthusiasm for it.  However, for
> those that may use it to help pinpoint the problem, I laud the
> effort.
> 
> 
> 




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RE: download the older version of openssh

[Arnold Wang]

I agree in principle that I should have the problem fixed rather going back
to the older version. However, I posted the question to this list several
days ago and haven't received any replies. I need a solution now so I can
have a working environment to have some real works done and the best
solution I can find now is going back to an older version. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Hall [mailto:cygwin-lh@cygwin.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:25 AM
To: Doug VanLeuven
Cc: Arnold Wang; cygwin-list
Subject: Re: download the older version of openssh


Doug VanLeuven wrote:
> Larry Hall wrote:
> 
>> Arnold Wang wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone tell me whether I can still download the older version, 
>>> 3.5p1-3,
>>> of openssh? It fixed the display problem I'm experiencing. With the 
>>> latest
>>> version, 3.6.1p1-2, I downloaded, certains NT console applications, 
>>> like net
>>> commands, won't have its output displayed through ssh session.   
>>
>>
>>
>> I expect the answer to this is 'no where', unless there is a very dated
>> mirror out there.  Perhaps you'd be interested in tracking this problem
>> a little more closely in an effort to localize the problem and find a
>> solution?
> 
> 
> That would help.   But in the meantime, I just checked.
> I have a copy lying in my local download directory.
> Can you accept a 450kb mail attachment?


Arnold may.  I and the list will not.  Please don't send it to anyone
other than Arnold, assuming he requests it.  Note, I expect that you were
only asking if Arnold would like to receive this attachment and not the
entire list but I decided I would clear up any ambiguity. ;-)

To the extent that having this older version of the package "resurface"
adversely affects the likelihood that the problem with the current version
will get tracked down, I've little enthusiasm for it.  However, for
those that may use it to help pinpoint the problem, I laud the
effort.



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