list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Teun Burgers]

Hello

In msg:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-08/msg01549.html

with subject:

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] update: gnugo-3.4

from Krzysztof Duleba my e-mail adress is visible.

Please remove this ASAP if at all possible since I have
enough trouble dealing with SPAM and sobig.f already.
At gmane ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/36140 )
the address is also mangled as it should be.

And for Krzysztof, please don't quote e-mail adresses
in messages to lists.

Thanks

Teun

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[list-manager]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:33:39PM +0200, Teun Burgers wrote:
>Hello
>
>In msg:
>
>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-08/msg01549.html
>
>with subject:
>
>Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] update: gnugo-3.4
>
>from Krzysztof Duleba my e-mail adress is visible.
>
>Please remove this ASAP if at all possible since I have
>enough trouble dealing with SPAM and sobig.f already.

http://sourceware.org/lists.html

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Krzysztof Duleba]

Teun Burgers" wrote in news:3F4FC6B3.1F8F7B@quicknet.nl...

> In msg:
> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-08/msg01549.html
>
> with subject:
> Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] update: gnugo-3.4
> from Krzysztof Duleba my e-mail adress is visible.
>
> Please remove this ASAP if at all possible since I have
> enough trouble dealing with SPAM and sobig.f already.
> At gmane ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/36140 )
> the address is also mangled as it should be.
>
> And for Krzysztof, please don't quote e-mail adresses
> in messages to lists.
>
> Teun

The annoying thing here is that we have to use our real adresses. If the
server allowed fake adresses, the problem would disapear. Do you believe
that replacing @ with (at) is of any help? I don't.

Regards
Krzysztof Duleba



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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Elfyn McBratney]

Krzysztof Duleba wrote:
> Teun Burgers" wrote
> 
> > In msg:
> > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-08/msg01549.html
> >
> > with subject:
> > Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] update: gnugo-3.4
> > from Krzysztof Duleba my e-mail adress is visible.
> >
> > Please remove this ASAP if at all possible since I have
> > enough trouble dealing with SPAM and sobig.f already.
> > At gmane ( http://article.gmane.org/... )
> > the address is also mangled as it should be.
> >
> > And for Krzysztof, please don't quote e-mail adresses
> > in messages to lists.
> >
> > Teun
> 
> The annoying thing here is that we have to use our real adresses. If the
> server allowed fake adresses, the problem would disapear. Do you believe
> that replacing @ with (at) is of any help? I don't.

And the point is?

All that's requested is that people not quote e-mail addresses in replies.
If it's your own address, fair do's.  Go ahead.  Just don't make that
decision for other people.  This is not directed at you personally,
think of it as a public request.

Thanks,

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Krzysztof Duleba]

"Elfyn McBratney" wrote in news:20030829221254.GJ614@emcb.co.uk...

> > > And for Krzysztof, please don't quote e-mail adresses
> > > in messages to lists.
> > The annoying thing here is that we have to use our real adresses. If
the
> > server allowed fake adresses, the problem would disapear. Do you
believe
> > that replacing @ with (at) is of any help? I don't.
>
> And the point is?
>
> All that's requested is that people not quote e-mail addresses in
replies.
> If it's your own address, fair do's.  Go ahead.  Just don't make that
> decision for other people.  This is not directed at you personally,
> think of it as a public request.
>
> Thanks

Harvesters that you are so afraid of always read the "from" field in
message header. Look what's written there. See? How do you want your
adress to be protected if it can be extracted so easily from the header?

I ask again: why aren't fake adresses allowed? I'd love to know the policy
that stands behind it.

Regards
Krzysztof Duleba



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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:29:48AM +0200, Krzysztof Duleba wrote:
>I ask again: why aren't fake adresses allowed? I'd love to know the policy
>that stands behind it.

It's the standard cygwin policy, extended to all of gcc.gnu.org and
sources.redhat.com:  We're just mean.

There is no reason for you to use your real address in your message if
the site policy bothers you so much (hint: cgf-rcm-SPLAT-cygwin-PERIOD-com
is not my real address).
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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Frédéric L. W. Meunier]

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Teun Burgers wrote:

> Please remove this ASAP if at all possible since I have
> enough trouble dealing with SPAM and sobig.f already.
> At gmane ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/36140 )
> the address is also mangled as it should be.

Sven isn't subscribed to the mailing-list, otherwise he'd reply
with something like
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-users&m=106094615810648&w=2

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Frédéric L. W. Meunier]

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Krzysztof Duleba wrote:

> Harvesters that you are so afraid of always read the "from" field in
> message header. Look what's written there. See? How do you want your
> adress to be protected if it can be extracted so easily from the header?

http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2003-08/msg00129.html
seems to do the job. It adds @bogus.example.com and you only
see the e-mail address using "reply via email to".

I think most sophisticated harvesters know about the "at dot"
thing.

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Krzysztof Duleba]

"Christopher Faylor" wrote
> >I ask again: why aren't fake adresses allowed? I'd love to know the
policy
> >that stands behind it.
>
> There is no reason for you to use your real address in your message if
> the site policy bothers you so much (hint:
cgf-rcm-SPLAT-cygwin-PERIOD-com
> is not my real address).

How could I do that if I use news.gmane.org server? It doesn't allow me to
type in any fake address - every new one is checked whether it exists or
not. Address taken from "from" field must be valid.

Regards
Krzysztof Duleba



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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Michael A Chase]

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:04:35 +0200, Krzysztof Duleba wrote:

> "Christopher Faylor" wrote
>>> I ask again: why aren't fake adresses allowed? I'd love to know the
>>> policy that stands behind it.
>>
>> There is no reason for you to use your real address in your message if
>> the site policy bothers you so much (hint:
>> cgf-rcm-SPLAT-cygwin-PERIOD-com is not my real address).
> 
> How could I do that if I use news.gmane.org server? It doesn't allow me
> to type in any fake address - every new one is checked whether it exists
> or not. Address taken from "from" field must be valid.

http://gmane.org/tmda.php

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 05:38:33PM -0700, Michael A Chase wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:04:35 +0200, Krzysztof Duleba wrote:
>>How could I do that if I use news.gmane.org server?  It doesn't allow
>>me to type in any fake address - every new one is checked whether it
>>exists or not.  Address taken from "from" field must be valid.
>
>http://gmane.org/tmda.php

Thanks.

This ends this discussion.  Take gmane-specific issues to gmane, please.
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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Charles Wilson]

Actually, that simple munging helps a lot, according to this study:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3534_7-5020441-1.html

Krzysztof Duleba wrote:
> 
> The annoying thing here is that we have to use our real adresses. If the
> server allowed fake adresses, the problem would disapear. Do you believe
> that replacing @ with (at) is of any help? I don't.

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Re: list manager: please remove e-mail address from 2003-08/msg01549

[Krzysztof Duleba]

"Michael A Chase" wrote

> > How could I do that if I use news.gmane.org server? It doesn't allow
me
> > to type in any fake address - every new one is checked whether it
exists
> > or not. Address taken from "from" field must be valid.
>
> http://gmane.org/tmda.php

That's nice. Now I have to find out how to force my Outlook to use
X-Archive field or change my newsreader.

Regards
Krzysztof Duleba



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