Re: Current OpenJade and DocBook SGML status

Re: Current OpenJade and DocBook SGML status

[Patrick Eisenacher]

Hi Ismael,

if you are setting up a new documentation system and you don't have to 
deal with existing SGML documents, then I strongly recommend you to move 
  to XML docbook. XML docbook gets considerably more development than 
SGML, which hardly makes any progress anymore these days. Furthermore 
Cygwin comes with everything necessary to start working with XML 
docbook: the XML validator xmllint (libxml), the XSL stylesheet 
processor xsltproc (libxslt), the XML docbook DTD and the latest XSL 
stylesheets. Cygwin also offers the xmlto frontend to xmllint and 
xsltproc available, if you don't want to deal with the various 
commandline switches.

The only drawback that the XSL world currently has, is the non-optimal 
print output generation, but you can also use the DSSSL stylesheets for 
that.

If you decide to stick with SGML, I remember from reading the 
docbook-apps mailing list (http://sources.redhat.com/ml/docbook-apps/) 
that OpenJade has some problems not present in Jade. So perhaps you want 
to give Jade a try before getting lost in OpenJade processor problems.


HTH,
Patrick

> Hi,
> 
> I have been trying to setup a documentation system on my Windows box, using Cygwin, and trying to use OpenJade and the DocBook SGML DTD and stylesheets.
> 
> Precompiled binaries downloaded from Markus Hoenicka page don't work for me, they core dump while compiling a SGML sample. Even worse, I have downloaded OpenJade sources from SourceForge.net (version 1.3), and after a lot of tweaking to achieve compiling them myself, they also core dump.
> 
> I have read about unofficial Cygwin packages, downloadable from www.toomanysecrets.com, but this URL seems to no longer work.
> 
> Any feedback on current OpenJade and SGML software available for a Cygwin platform will be very useful for me, so thanks in advance. I am using Cygwin 1.5.3(0.90/3/2).
> 
> Regards, Ismael




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Current OpenJade and DocBook SGML status

[Ismael Valladolid Torres]

Hi,

I have been trying to setup a documentation system on my Windows box, 
using Cygwin, and trying to use OpenJade and the DocBook SGML DTD and 
stylesheets.

Precompiled binaries downloaded from Markus Hoenicka page don't work for 
me, they core dump while compiling a SGML sample. Even worse, I have 
downloaded OpenJade sources from SourceForge.net (version 1.3), and 
after a lot of tweaking to achieve compiling them myself, they also core 
dump.

I have read about unofficial Cygwin packages, downloadable from 
www.toomanysecrets.com, but this URL seems to no longer work.

Any feedback on current OpenJade and SGML software available for a 
Cygwin platform will be very useful for me, so thanks in advance. I am 
using Cygwin 1.5.3(0.90/3/2).

Regards, Ismael
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Re: Current OpenJade and DocBook SGML status

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 06:07:20PM +0200, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been trying to setup a documentation system on my Windows box, 
> using Cygwin, and trying to use OpenJade and the DocBook SGML DTD and 
> stylesheets.
> 
> Precompiled binaries downloaded from Markus Hoenicka page don't work for 
> me, they core dump while compiling a SGML sample. Even worse, I have 
> downloaded OpenJade sources from SourceForge.net (version 1.3), and 
> after a lot of tweaking to achieve compiling them myself, they also core 
> dump.
> 
> I have read about unofficial Cygwin packages, downloadable from 
> www.toomanysecrets.com, but this URL seems to no longer work.
> 
> Any feedback on current OpenJade and SGML software available for a 
> Cygwin platform will be very useful for me, so thanks in advance. I am 
> using Cygwin 1.5.3(0.90/3/2).
> 
> Regards, Ismael

A while ago I put a temporary mirror with the packages formerly at
toomanysecrets.com; to use, add http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/docbook
to your mirrors in setup.exe (or to /etc/setup/last-mirror) and look for
the packages in the chooser. There is also a "helper package" called
cygwin-doc-build that should grab everything you need for a working SGML
DocBook install. At least, it works for me to build the Cygwin documentation.

For the archives:
Refer to /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/cygwin-doc-*README for the latest info
if that mirror also disappears. 

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Re: Current OpenJade and DocBook SGML status

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

> Mensaje citado de Joshua Daniel Franklin el 15/09/2003 22:38:
> > A while ago I put a temporary mirror with the packages formerly at
> > toomanysecrets.com; to use, add http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/docbook
> > to your mirrors in setup.exe (or to /etc/setup/last-mirror) and look for
> > the packages in the chooser. There is also a "helper package" called
> > cygwin-doc-build that should grab everything you need for a working SGML
> > DocBook install. At least, it works for me to build the Cygwin documentation
> 
> Thanks a lot for this info. Nevertheless, this packages also core dump 
> for me. So, maybe there is something wrong with my system or my setup.

Well, you might read <http://cygwin.com/problems.html> and see if any
of the suggestions there help. What exactly dumps core (openjade, etc)?
Have you tried XML as suggested?

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Re: Current OpenJade and DocBook SGML status

[Ismael Valladolid Torres]

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El jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003, a las 19:03, Joshua Daniel Franklin escribe:
> What exactly dumps core (openjade, etc)?

It's openjade the one dumping core.

> Have you tried XML as suggested?

Yes, the xmlto suite works lovely. Nevertheless, I need SGML. Thanks a
lot.

Regards, Ismael
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