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From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <lhall@rfk.com>
To: Jean Delvare <delvare@ensicaen.ismra.fr>
Cc: cygwin@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: file descriptors opened as text files
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:24:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20010215121908.019863a8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0102151813040.3505-100000@e450.ensicaen.ismra.fr>

At 12:21 PM 2/15/2001, Jean Delvare wrote:


> > Its not a Cygwin invention.  Its a MS one.  Check out the documentation
> > for open()/_open() on the MSDN.  They use the _O_BINARY flag.  Don't get me
> > wrong.  I hate text mode in all its forms.  Perhaps Cygwin could've forgone
> > its use here.  Maybe not.  However, doing so here follows the MS lead and
> > wasn't a Cygwin concoction.
>I don't use MS development softwares. That's not the point here. Cygwin
>intends to provide an environment for fast port from Unix to Windows, so
>what it must look and behave like is Unix, not Windows. And the fast if,
>O_BINARY and O_TEXT are not defined on Unix systems. Moreover, a file
>descriptor is always working in binary mode on Unix. Thus, the choice
>Cygwin made here will necessary cause problems to anyone porting a
>software using file descriptors, and there must (and will) be thousands,
>for sure.
>
>I strongly believe that the correct behavior would be to consider any file
>descriptor as binary. People needing higher lever control are supposed to
>use handles anyway, not descriptors.


Feel free to start another binary vs text file debate/war but for the sanity
of all on this list that have lived through it many times before here, take 
it up on another list.

Thanks,



Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
118 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX



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  reply	other threads:[~2001-02-15  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-14 13:13 Jean Delvare
2001-02-14 13:22 ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners Inc)
2001-02-14 13:40   ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-14 13:58     ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners Inc)
2001-02-14 14:12       ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-14 14:21         ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners Inc)
2001-02-14 14:46           ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-14 15:00             ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners Inc)
2001-02-14 16:54               ` Ross Smith
2001-02-14 19:28                 ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-15  1:36                 ` Jesper Eskilson
2001-02-15  6:39               ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-15  7:54                 ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-02-15  9:21                   ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-15  9:24                     ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [this message]
2001-02-15 10:37                     ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-15  7:59                 ` DJ Delorie
2001-02-15  9:12                   ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-15  9:17                     ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-02-15  9:28                       ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-15  9:37                         ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-02-15 10:38                         ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-15 10:11                     ` Earnie Boyd
2001-02-15  8:04                 ` Earnie Boyd
2001-02-15  9:30                   ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-15  8:04                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2001-02-15 21:11                 ` Lothan
2001-02-14 15:04             ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-14 14:21         ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-14 14:30           ` Jean Delvare
2001-02-14 14:40             ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-14 14:51             ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners Inc)
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2001-02-15 15:53 Heribert Dahms
2001-02-15 16:06 ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-02-15 18:26   ` Christopher Faylor
2001-02-16  8:12 ` Ehud Karni
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