basic stuff

basic stuff

[Joe T.]

Hello,

I'm new to cygwin, not new to programming though.
I scanned through the documentation, but didnt find an
answer to my questions. maybe im just that blind.

I would like to work on some socket programming on
windows and I'm trying to find a good compiler. since
I have a good background in unix programming, i
figured cygwin would be my best bet. but there are
some problems:

I like using synedit (www.mkidesigns.com) for my IDE. 
after ive compiled the program and i run it, it tells
me it needs cygwin1.dll. if i copy this file to
windows/system, im able to run the program.

so my questions are, do i have to work with cygwin
directly in the 'unix' environment? or is it possible
to work completely in a win32 environment? are all the
programs compiled to the cygwin.dll, and if so,
wouldnt that make it rather hard to run that program
on another windows machine?

if cygwin isnt what im really looking for in a
compiler, could someone else suggest another free one
that would suit my needs?

thank you

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Re: basic stuff

[Bobby McNulty]

If you build a unix program, it can only be used in the cygwin enviroment.
If you use -mno-cygwin -D__MINGW32__, you can use it from a dos box.
If it is a windows program, and you used -mwindows, which makes it a full
fledged Windows program, you can use it else where.
Please take the extra cygwin dll and delete. Just use it from the cygwin
enviroment.


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Re: basic stuff

[Peter Buckley]

Try searching the mailing list archives for "--mno cygwin"
Use google to search the cygwin.com website like this-

mno cygwin site:cygwin.com

AFAICS, (and this is just from my experience lurking this list)
the --mno cygwin option is a way to compile a program so it
doesn't depend on the cygwin1.dll.

HTH,
Peter

"Joe T." wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm new to cygwin, not new to programming though.
> I scanned through the documentation, but didnt find an
> answer to my questions. maybe im just that blind.
>
> I would like to work on some socket programming on
> windows and I'm trying to find a good compiler. since
> I have a good background in unix programming, i
> figured cygwin would be my best bet. but there are
> some problems:
>
> I like using synedit (www.mkidesigns.com) for my IDE.
> after ive compiled the program and i run it, it tells
> me it needs cygwin1.dll. if i copy this file to
> windows/system, im able to run the program.
>
> so my questions are, do i have to work with cygwin
> directly in the 'unix' environment? or is it possible
> to work completely in a win32 environment? are all the
> programs compiled to the cygwin.dll, and if so,
> wouldnt that make it rather hard to run that program
> on another windows machine?
>
> if cygwin isnt what im really looking for in a
> compiler, could someone else suggest another free one
> that would suit my needs?
>
> thank you
>
> =====
> ----(Joe Topjian)---------
> web:   http://terrarum.net
> email: auximini@yahoo.com
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Re: basic stuff

[Bobby McNulty]

Site does not work.
www.mkidesigns.com does not show up.
I tried www.mkdesigns.com and found myself at a store.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe T." <auximini@yahoo.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:12 AM
Subject: basic stuff


> Hello,
> 
> I'm new to cygwin, not new to programming though.
> I scanned through the documentation, but didnt find an
> answer to my questions. maybe im just that blind.
> 
> I would like to work on some socket programming on
> windows and I'm trying to find a good compiler. since
> I have a good background in unix programming, i
> figured cygwin would be my best bet. but there are
> some problems:
> 
> I like using synedit (www.mkidesigns.com) for my IDE. 
> after ive compiled the program and i run it, it tells
> me it needs cygwin1.dll. if i copy this file to
> windows/system, im able to run the program.
> 
> so my questions are, do i have to work with cygwin
> directly in the 'unix' environment? or is it possible
> to work completely in a win32 environment? are all the
> programs compiled to the cygwin.dll, and if so,
> wouldnt that make it rather hard to run that program
> on another windows machine?
> 
> if cygwin isnt what im really looking for in a
> compiler, could someone else suggest another free one
> that would suit my needs?
> 
> thank you
> 
> =====
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> email: auximini@yahoo.com
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Re: basic stuff

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 11:12 AM 7/23/2001, Joe T. wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm new to cygwin, not new to programming though.
>I scanned through the documentation, but didnt find an
>answer to my questions. maybe im just that blind.
>
>I would like to work on some socket programming on
>windows and I'm trying to find a good compiler. since
>I have a good background in unix programming, i
>figured cygwin would be my best bet. but there are
>some problems:
>
>I like using synedit (www.mkidesigns.com) for my IDE. 
>after ive compiled the program and i run it, it tells
>me it needs cygwin1.dll. if i copy this file to
>windows/system, im able to run the program.


Don't do that.  It makes it very easy to end up with 2 or more
Cygwin DLLs on a system.  More than 1 loaded at a time is a 
problem.


>so my questions are, do i have to work with cygwin
>directly in the 'unix' environment? or is it possible
>to work completely in a win32 environment? are all the
>programs compiled to the cygwin.dll, and if so,
>wouldnt that make it rather hard to run that program
>on another windows machine?


If you don't need the POSIX emulation layer for your 
program, use the -mno-cygwin switch or the completely Win32 
version of gcc available at www.mingw.org.  Otherwise, you 
need cygwin1.dll, just like you need msvcrt.dll for most other
Win32 programs, for example. 


>if cygwin isnt what im really looking for in a
>compiler, could someone else suggest another free one
>that would suit my needs?

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Re: basic stuff

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

The name of the switch is -mno-cygwin actually.

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At 11:45 AM 7/23/2001, Peter Buckley wrote:
>Try searching the mailing list archives for "--mno cygwin"
>Use google to search the cygwin.com website like this-
>
>mno cygwin site:cygwin.com
>
>AFAICS, (and this is just from my experience lurking this list)
>the --mno cygwin option is a way to compile a program so it
>doesn't depend on the cygwin1.dll.
>
>HTH,
>Peter
>
>"Joe T." wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm new to cygwin, not new to programming though.
> > I scanned through the documentation, but didnt find an
> > answer to my questions. maybe im just that blind.
> >
> > I would like to work on some socket programming on
> > windows and I'm trying to find a good compiler. since
> > I have a good background in unix programming, i
> > figured cygwin would be my best bet. but there are
> > some problems:
> >
> > I like using synedit (www.mkidesigns.com) for my IDE.
> > after ive compiled the program and i run it, it tells
> > me it needs cygwin1.dll. if i copy this file to
> > windows/system, im able to run the program.
> >
> > so my questions are, do i have to work with cygwin
> > directly in the 'unix' environment? or is it possible
> > to work completely in a win32 environment? are all the
> > programs compiled to the cygwin.dll, and if so,
> > wouldnt that make it rather hard to run that program
> > on another windows machine?
> >
> > if cygwin isnt what im really looking for in a
> > compiler, could someone else suggest another free one
> > that would suit my needs?
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > =====
> > ----(Joe Topjian)---------
> > web:   http://terrarum.net
> > email: auximini@yahoo.com
> > --------------------------
> >
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Re: basic stuff

[David Postill]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:49:26 -0500, you wrote:

| Site does not work.
| www.mkidesigns.com does not show up.
| I tried www.mkdesigns.com and found myself at a store.

http://www.mkidesign.com/index.html

/davidp

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Re: basic stuff

[Bobby McNulty]

Got it. Thanks.



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