Running tcsh in rxvt

Running tcsh in rxvt

[Jerrad Pierce]

What's the best way to do this?
If you do rxvt -e tcsh (say from a shortcut).
The user's dotfile is not parsed (seemingly because home etc. don't get
correctly set from passwd), plus tab completion and history don't work.

I've got:
	bash --login -i -c "/bin/rxvt -e tcsh" &

But it seems like there really ought to be a way to avoid the seemingly
unnecessary invocation of bash and having it hanging around afterwards...

Of course:
	rxvt -e bash --login -i #from the rxvt documentation
doesn't work properly when invoking from outside of the cygwin environment
either; i.e. not from an exiisting bash --login -i session.

PS> I'm not on the list yet so pleace (b)cc me any replies, Thanks!
-- 
H4sICNoBwDoAA3NpZwA9jbsNwDAIRHumuC4NklvXTOD0KSJEnwU8fHz4Q8M9i3sGzkS7BBrm
OkCTwsycb4S3DloZuMIYeXpLFqw5LaMhXC2ymhreVXNWMw9YGuAYdfmAbwomoPSyFJuFn2x8
Opr8bBBidccAAAA=
--
MOTD on Sweetmorn, the 37th of Bureaucracy, in the YOLD 3167:
"My girlfriend says that I need help my boyfriend says I'd be better off dead..." --Therapy?, Troublegum

--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 02:22 PM 9/13/2001, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
>What's the best way to do this?
>If you do rxvt -e tcsh (say from a shortcut).
>The user's dotfile is not parsed (seemingly because home etc. don't get
>correctly set from passwd), plus tab completion and history don't work.
>
>I've got:
>         bash --login -i -c "/bin/rxvt -e tcsh" &
>
>But it seems like there really ought to be a way to avoid the seemingly
>unnecessary invocation of bash and having it hanging around afterwards...


What's the matter with "rxvt -e tcsh -l" ?


>Of course:
>         rxvt -e bash --login -i #from the rxvt documentation
>doesn't work properly when invoking from outside of the cygwin environment
>either; i.e. not from an exiisting bash --login -i session.


How so?  Works fine for me.



Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
118 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[David A. Cobb]

Jerrad Pierce wrote:

> What's the best way to do this?
> If you do rxvt -e tcsh (say from a shortcut).
> The user's dotfile is not parsed (seemingly because home etc. don't get
> correctly set from passwd), plus tab completion and history don't work.
> 
> I've got:
> 	bash --login -i -c "/bin/rxvt -e tcsh" &
> 
> But it seems like there really ought to be a way to avoid the seemingly
> unnecessary invocation of bash and having it hanging around afterwards...
> 
> Of course:
> 	rxvt -e bash --login -i #from the rxvt documentation
> doesn't work properly when invoking from outside of the cygwin environment
> either; i.e. not from an exiisting bash --login -i session.
> 
> PS> I'm not on the list yet so pleace (b)cc me any replies, Thanks!
> 


I know, I know, I've said this before!  And it's only my personal preference.  


But I've had good results with [Windows Shortcut]runs: rxvt [displayparams] -e /usr/bin/login MyUserName.


This way the initial shell is selected from /etc/passwd, and all the 
user-associations are happy.



-- 
David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around 
nice guy.
New PGP key 09/13/2001:
:< http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=superbiskit&\
fingerprint=on>
:< http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=superbiskit&\
fingerprint=on>
Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B}
"By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner."
--The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.]
Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed
to examine the source.  Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software!


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Jerrad Pierce]

>What's the matter with "rxvt -e tcsh -l" ?
As I mentioned in the original post;
no parsing of .cshrc, no history, no substitution.

>How so?  Works fine for me.
rxvt window pops up then exits


My install list is (updated at noon today):
cygwin.lst.gz
clear.lst.gz
cygrunsrv.lst.gz
bash.lst.gz
fileutils.lst.gz
findutils.lst.gz
gzip.lst.gz
inetutils.lst.gz
installed.db
installed.db.old
last-mirror
less.lst.gz
login.lst.gz
lynx.lst.gz
man.lst.gz
ncftp.lst.gz
ncurses.lst.gz
openssh.lst.gz
readline.lst.gz
regex.lst.gz
rxvt.lst.gz
sh-utils.lst.gz
tar.lst.gz
tcsh.lst.gz
termcap.lst.gz
textutils.lst.gz
time.lst.gz
timestamp
w32api.lst.gz
wget.lst.gz
which.lst.gz
zip.lst.gz

-- 
H4sICNoBwDoAA3NpZwA9jbsNwDAIRHumuC4NklvXTOD0KSJEnwU8fHz4Q8M9i3sGzkS7BBrm
OkCTwsycb4S3DloZuMIYeXpLFqw5LaMhXC2ymhreVXNWMw9YGuAYdfmAbwomoPSyFJuFn2x8
Opr8bBBidccAAAA=
--
MOTD on Sweetmorn, the 37th of Bureaucracy, in the YOLD 3167:
"My girlfriend says that I need help my boyfriend says I'd be better off dead..." --Therapy?, Troublegum

--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 02:49 PM 9/13/2001, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> >What's the matter with "rxvt -e tcsh -l" ?
>As I mentioned in the original post;
>no parsing of .cshrc, no history, no substitution.

Did you try the -l flag I put in my response?  You didn't
mention it in your original message, which is why I suggested
it.  You won't get the parsing of the ~/.cshrc without it.


> >How so?  Works fine for me.
>rxvt window pops up then exits
>


OK, must be a local installation difference.  Like I said, it 
works fine here for me.  The only time that I got something similar
to what you describe was when I mistakenly put double quotes around
the "tcsh -l" in rxvt invocation I suggested.  Obviously that was an
error which made rxvt exit immediately...


>My install list is (updated at noon today):
>cygwin.lst.gz
>clear.lst.gz
>cygrunsrv.lst.gz
>bash.lst.gz
>fileutils.lst.gz
>findutils.lst.gz
>gzip.lst.gz
>inetutils.lst.gz
>installed.db
>installed.db.old
>last-mirror
>less.lst.gz
>login.lst.gz
>lynx.lst.gz
>man.lst.gz
>ncftp.lst.gz
>ncurses.lst.gz
>openssh.lst.gz
>readline.lst.gz
>regex.lst.gz
>rxvt.lst.gz
>sh-utils.lst.gz
>tar.lst.gz
>tcsh.lst.gz
>termcap.lst.gz
>textutils.lst.gz
>time.lst.gz
>timestamp
>w32api.lst.gz
>wget.lst.gz
>which.lst.gz
>zip.lst.gz
>
>-- 
>H4sICNoBwDoAA3NpZwA9jbsNwDAIRHumuC4NklvXTOD0KSJEnwU8fHz4Q8M9i3sGzkS7BBrm
>OkCTwsycb4S3DloZuMIYeXpLFqw5LaMhXC2ymhreVXNWMw9YGuAYdfmAbwomoPSyFJuFn2x8
>Opr8bBBidccAAAA=
>--
>MOTD on Sweetmorn, the 37th of Bureaucracy, in the YOLD 3167:
>"My girlfriend says that I need help my boyfriend says I'd be better off dead..." --Therapy?, Troublegum


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Michael Hoffman]

Obviously I have missed the penultimate message in this thread. I
suppose it was private to Larry.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:

> At 02:49 PM 9/13/2001, Jerrad Pierce wrote:

[> > Larry Hall wrote:]

> > >How so?  Works fine for me.
> >rxvt window pops up then exits
> 
> OK, must be a local installation difference.  Like I said, it 
> works fine here for me.  The only time that I got something similar
> to what you describe was when I mistakenly put double quotes around
> the "tcsh -l" in rxvt invocation I suggested.  Obviously that was an
> error which made rxvt exit immediately...

I have had similar problems in the past with bash and can reproduce
this one with tcsh. Use an absolute pathname to the login shell to get
it to work.

Try rxvt -e /usr/bin/tcsh -l

It also doesn't work for me without an absolute path, even if the
shortcut sets the directory to C:\cygwin\bin. It _does_ work if I use
./tcsh (or ./bash) instead of just tcsh. If it works for you, you
probably have . in your PATH. The documentation in
/usr/doc/Cygwin/rxvt-2.7.2-README suggests using an absolute path,
probably to avoid issues like this.

I don't get the expected login shell behavior when using tcsh like
this. I don't use tcsh, so I suspsect this is because I have no
/etc/csh.cshrc or /etc/csh.profile to tell tcsh how to set the home
environment variable. I'll let people who actually use tcsh deal with
this one. :-)
--
Michael Hoffman <grouse@mail.utexas.edu>
The University of Texas at Austin




--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 03:39 PM 9/13/2001, Michael Hoffman wrote:
>Obviously I have missed the penultimate message in this thread. I
>suppose it was private to Larry.


I believe this whole thread went to the list, but I didn't pay too 
much attention to that! ;-)


>On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>
> > At 02:49 PM 9/13/2001, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
>
>[> > Larry Hall wrote:]
>
> > > >How so?  Works fine for me.
> > >rxvt window pops up then exits
> > 
> > OK, must be a local installation difference.  Like I said, it 
> > works fine here for me.  The only time that I got something similar
> > to what you describe was when I mistakenly put double quotes around
> > the "tcsh -l" in rxvt invocation I suggested.  Obviously that was an
> > error which made rxvt exit immediately...
>
>I have had similar problems in the past with bash and can reproduce
>this one with tcsh. Use an absolute pathname to the login shell to get
>it to work.
>
>Try rxvt -e /usr/bin/tcsh -l
>
>It also doesn't work for me without an absolute path, even if the
>shortcut sets the directory to C:\cygwin\bin. It _does_ work if I use
>./tcsh (or ./bash) instead of just tcsh. If it works for you, you
>probably have . in your PATH. The documentation in
>/usr/doc/Cygwin/rxvt-2.7.2-README suggests using an absolute path,
>probably to avoid issues like this.
>
>I don't get the expected login shell behavior when using tcsh like
>this. I don't use tcsh, so I suspsect this is because I have no
>/etc/csh.cshrc or /etc/csh.profile to tell tcsh how to set the home
>environment variable. I'll let people who actually use tcsh deal with
>this one. :-)



Good point Michael!  It's always important to make sure that you're 
path is set up as you intend to use it.




Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
118 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Michael Hoffman]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:

> At 03:39 PM 9/13/2001, Michael Hoffman wrote:
> >Obviously I have missed the penultimate message in this thread. I
> >suppose it was private to Larry.
> 
> I believe this whole thread went to the list, but I didn't pay too 
> much attention to that! ;-)

No, it did. It was my mistake. However, your response arrived before
the original message since you received it privately, so I didn't get
it before I replied.
--
Michael Hoffman <grouse@mail.utexas.edu>
The University of Texas at Austin




--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:39:53PM -0500, Michael Hoffman wrote:
> I don't get the expected login shell behavior when using tcsh like
> this. I don't use tcsh, so I suspsect this is because I have no
> /etc/csh.cshrc or /etc/csh.profile to tell tcsh how to set the home
> environment variable.

Just for your all information.  It's not sufficient to set $HOME
in a /etc/csh.* file.  Even worse, these files are actually only
executed when tcsh has found the $HOME directory.  $HOME must
really be set before tcsh has been started.

Corinna

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Developer                                mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com
Red Hat, Inc.

--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:49:53PM -0400, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> >What's the matter with "rxvt -e tcsh -l" ?
> As I mentioned in the original post;
> no parsing of .cshrc, no history, no substitution.

tcsh needs $HOME set _before_ it starts. Either start tcsh using
a batch file or set $HOME in your Windows env.

Corinna

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Developer                                mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com
Red Hat, Inc.

--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 03:28 PM 9/13/2001, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:49:53PM -0400, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> > >What's the matter with "rxvt -e tcsh -l" ?
> > As I mentioned in the original post;
> > no parsing of .cshrc, no history, no substitution.
>
>tcsh needs $HOME set _before_ it starts. Either start tcsh using
>a batch file or set $HOME in your Windows env.


Ah.  That's the difference in my environment.  I always have HOME
set to something reasonable.



Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
118 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/

Re: Running tcsh in rxvt

[belg4mit]

>I know, I know, I've said this before!  And it's only my personal preference.
I've actually been using this, and is MUCH better.
It should be the default IMHO.
I came across it when searchign the archives for info
on changing the font in rxvt
-- 
H4sICNoBwDoAA3NpZwA9jbsNwDAIRHumuC4NklvXTOD0KSJEnwU8fHz4Q8M9i3sGzkS7BBrm
OkCTwsycb4S3DloZuMIYeXpLFqw5LaMhXC2ymhreVXNWMw9YGuAYdfmAbwomoPSyFJuFn2x8
Opr8bBBidccAAAA=
--
MOTD on Prickle-Prickle, the 45th of Bureaucracy, in the YOLD 3167:
You are asking wrong/unnecessary questions, and getting wrong answers. --John Porter


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/