From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21031 invoked by alias); 1 Feb 2002 21:25:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 20949 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 21:25:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ligarius-fe0.ultra.net) (146.115.8.189) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 21:25:28 -0000 Received: from enterprise-e.Starfleet.com (216-164-246-70.s2165.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.246.70]) by ligarius-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n26500/mtc.v2) with ESMTP id QAA13201; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:25:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20020201161215.01d218f8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: lhall@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 13:25:00 -0000 To: "Stephano Mariani" , "'Andrew DeFaria'" , From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" Subject: RE: Why not a news server? In-Reply-To: <004401c1ab5f$23afef60$01000001@sknet01> References: <4.3.1.2.20020201131341.01cb2718@pop.ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-SW-Source: 2002-02/txt/msg00051.txt.bz2 Actually, I didn't say that the news server should or has to replace the email list. I personally don't believe that is the case at all. I was simply reiterating the major concern of the previous discussions on this subject. If the new server did replace the list, it was clear that at least some members of the Cygwin community would perceive this as a loss. So the conclusion was that the news server must be *in addition to* the Cygwin email list, not replacing it. There was never any dissenting remarks concerning the news server once it was 'decided' that both could exist concurrently. Also, I don't believe that anyone ever believed it would not be technically possible to create and maintain both the email list and the news server (which I believe is what your comment about the PHP mailing list is meant to clarify). The only thing that has been missing in the past is the interest by someone to actually make the news server a reality. Sorry if my original explanation of the previous discussions on this subject made my point unclear to you. Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX At 03:29 PM 2/1/2002, Stephano Mariani wrote: >Why should a news server replace a mailing list? Has someone seen the >PHP mailing list recently? All items on the list are also put on a news >server automatically, likewise with news items being posted to the >mailing list subscribers so that users have both options. > >Stephano Mariani > >-----Original Message----- >From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf >Of Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) >Sent: Friday, 1 February 2002 6 25 >To: Andrew DeFaria; cygwin@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: Why not a news server? > >At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find >the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy >causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in. >Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual >issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that >nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of >companies have set up news servers for such things. > > > >Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and >articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of >these articles are missing. > > > >Comments? (I'm sure there will be some). > > >Well at least it's been years since this topic came up. It used to come >up every few months. :-( > >OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last >discussed so maybe it warrants "discussion". However, I'd highly >recommend that anyone that wishes to discuss this review the email list >archives. I think it was generally agreed that no one objected to the >use of a news server so long as it didn't replace the email list. > >In this context, I believe the main reason that a news server has never >been implemented is that no one has volunteered to set one up and run >it. >So, I guess if you're interested in having one, you can have one if you >or someone else is willing to do the work to create and maintain it. >Not to sound too pessimistic but pointing out this fact in the past was >enough to kill the thread... for a while. > > > > > >Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com >RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com >838 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office >Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX > > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html >Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/