* Strange behaviour of ls listing of directories
@ 2002-05-24 8:57 Dr. Volker Zell
2002-05-26 10:18 ` Jim.George
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From: Dr. Volker Zell @ 2002-05-24 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Hi
I just recently discovered the following behaviour of ls:
When I type in ls in the same directory a couple of times, sometimes the first ls call shows
some of the directories with 0 bytes and in the next calls with an actual byte number as you
can see below.
Anybody else seeing this ?
This is the same on NT or W2K, with netsec enabled ot ntea enabled.
vzell:/c> type ll
ll is aliased to `ls -lat --show-control-chars'
vzell:/c> ll
ls: pagefile.sys: Permission denied
total 489
drwxr-xr-x 7 vzell admin 0 May 23 12:45 tmp/ <-- 0 Bytes
drwxr-xr-x 8 vzell admin 0 May 23 11:59 temp/ <-- 0 Bytes
drwxr-xr-x 28 vzell admin 24576 May 21 01:05 WINNT/
-rw-r--r-- 1 vzell admin 276344 May 20 19:08 Tree.Far
drwxr-xr-x 20 vzell admin 4096 May 16 11:36 Programme/
drwxr-xr-x 13 vzell admin 4096 May 16 11:36 oracle/
drwxr-xr-x 10 vzell admin 4096 Feb 14 17:56 gnu/
drwxr-xr-x 4 vzell admin 0 Jun 13 2001 xircom/
drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 0 Jun 4 2001 bin/ <-- 0 Bytes
drwxr-xr-x 3 vzell admin 0 Dec 29 2000 RECYCLER/
drwxr-xr-x 9 vzell admin 0 Nov 29 2000 MSOffice/
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 26816 Jun 28 2000 NTDETECT.COM
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 158160 Jun 28 2000 ntldr
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 289 Jun 28 2000 boot.ini
drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 0 Jun 28 2000 RECYCLED/
-rwxr-xr-x 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 AUTOEXEC.BAT*
-rw-r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 CONFIG.SYS
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 IO.SYS
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 MSDOS.SYS
vzell:/c> ll
ls: pagefile.sys: Permission denied
total 521
drwxr-xr-x 7 vzell admin 12288 May 23 12:45 tmp/ <-- xxx Bytes
drwxr-xr-x 8 vzell admin 12288 May 23 11:59 temp/ <-- xxx Bytes
drwxr-xr-x 28 vzell admin 24576 May 21 01:05 WINNT/
-rw-r--r-- 1 vzell admin 276344 May 20 19:08 Tree.Far
drwxr-xr-x 20 vzell admin 4096 May 16 11:36 Programme/
drwxr-xr-x 13 vzell admin 4096 May 16 11:36 oracle/
drwxr-xr-x 10 vzell admin 4096 Feb 14 17:56 gnu/
drwxr-xr-x 4 vzell admin 0 Jun 13 2001 xircom/ <-- 0 Bytes even so there are files in the directory
drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 4096 Jun 4 2001 bin/ <-- xxx Bytes
drwxr-xr-x 3 vzell admin 0 Dec 29 2000 RECYCLER/
drwxr-xr-x 9 vzell admin 4096 Nov 29 2000 MSOffice/
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 26816 Jun 28 2000 NTDETECT.COM
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 158160 Jun 28 2000 ntldr
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 289 Jun 28 2000 boot.ini
drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 0 Jun 28 2000 RECYCLED/
-rwxr-xr-x 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 AUTOEXEC.BAT*
-rw-r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 CONFIG.SYS
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 IO.SYS
-r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 MSDOS.SYS
Ciao
Volker
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread* Re: Strange behaviour of ls listing of directories
2002-05-24 8:57 Strange behaviour of ls listing of directories Dr. Volker Zell
@ 2002-05-26 10:18 ` Jim.George
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From: Jim.George @ 2002-05-26 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dr. Volker Zell; +Cc: cygwin
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just recently discovered the following behaviour of ls:
> When I type in ls in the same directory a couple of times, sometimes the first ls call shows
> some of the directories with 0 bytes and in the next calls with an actual byte number as you
> can see below.
>
> Anybody else seeing this ?
> This is the same on NT or W2K, with netsec enabled ot ntea enabled.
>
<snip>
> drwxr-xr-x 4 vzell admin 0 Jun 13 2001 xircom/
<-- 0 Bytes even so there are files in the directory
> drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 4096 Jun 4 2001 bin/ <-- xxx Bytes
> drwxr-xr-x 3 vzell admin 0 Dec 29 2000 RECYCLER/
> drwxr-xr-x 9 vzell admin 4096 Nov 29 2000 MSOffice/
> -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 26816 Jun 28 2000 NTDETECT.COM
> -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 158160 Jun 28 2000 ntldr
> -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 289 Jun 28 2000 boot.ini
> drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 0 Jun 28 2000 RECYCLED/
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 AUTOEXEC.BAT*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 CONFIG.SYS
> -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 IO.SYS
> -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 MSDOS.SYS
>
> Ciao
> Volker
>
Do you get the same behaviour with 'ls -lat'?
I got the same as yourself with the --show-control-chars but not with ls
-lat.
Jim
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* Re: Strange behaviour of ls listing of directories
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@ 2002-05-26 16:56 ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
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From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) @ 2002-05-26 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jim.george, Dr. Volker Zell; +Cc: cygwin
At 03:57 AM 5/26/2002, Jim.George wrote:
>On Fri, 24 May 2002, Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I just recently discovered the following behaviour of ls:
> > When I type in ls in the same directory a couple of times, sometimes the first ls call shows
> > some of the directories with 0 bytes and in the next calls with an actual byte number as you
> > can see below.
> >
> > Anybody else seeing this ?
> > This is the same on NT or W2K, with netsec enabled ot ntea enabled.
> >
><snip>
> > drwxr-xr-x 4 vzell admin 0 Jun 13 2001 xircom/
><-- 0 Bytes even so there are files in the directory
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 4096 Jun 4 2001 bin/ <-- xxx Bytes
> > drwxr-xr-x 3 vzell admin 0 Dec 29 2000 RECYCLER/
> > drwxr-xr-x 9 vzell admin 4096 Nov 29 2000 MSOffice/
> > -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 26816 Jun 28 2000 NTDETECT.COM
> > -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 158160 Jun 28 2000 ntldr
> > -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 289 Jun 28 2000 boot.ini
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 vzell admin 0 Jun 28 2000 RECYCLED/
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 AUTOEXEC.BAT*
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 CONFIG.SYS
> > -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 IO.SYS
> > -r--r--r-- 1 vzell admin 0 Jun 27 2000 MSDOS.SYS
> >
> > Ciao
> > Volker
> >
>Do you get the same behaviour with 'ls -lat'?
>
>I got the same as yourself with the --show-control-chars but not with ls
>-lat.
No, there's more to it than that, at least based on what I see. I get the
same results as Volker. It doesn't matter what flags I give ls (in addition
to "-l" that is). I only have "ntsec" set. Perhaps you tried
"--show-control-chars" the first time in a directory and "-lat" after that?
Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com
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