From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95237 invoked by alias); 17 Jan 2017 19:03:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 95225 invoked by uid 89); 17 Jan 2017 19:03:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,LOTS_OF_MONEY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=Hx-spam-relays-external:shaw.ca, H*r:shaw.ca, H*RU:shaw.ca, upgrades X-HELO: smtp-out-no.shaw.ca Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (HELO smtp-out-no.shaw.ca) (64.59.134.9) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:03:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([174.0.238.184]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id TZ2hcRCOTVQuxTZ2icjmyc; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:03:43 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=BNTDlBYG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=WqCeCkldcEjBO3QZneQsCg==:117 a=WqCeCkldcEjBO3QZneQsCg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=XUiGCaOsWUM40nmjSfcA:9 a=BLOEIIX1g5WEu4LR:21 a=ZBTYfyY5iJj2qJLO:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 Subject: Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1 References: <13210565121.20170117202514@yandex.ru> To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: Brian Inglis Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Message-ID: <400d890d-3580-3077-cb19-978e66a16acb@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:03:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13210565121.20170117202514@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEJT6OgzSLFSZAGeZ812aWX1DbCU3EuQlUMVaTX7fe9kh9Ae9EeRjO6G992qUmRwyD29hTKvx3ae8WAZ0UfwrlHAG6qJ8kIIIaUC3vJ1iliTfX55qVUR hmTVekcO6d8v6Cio+w1BZMx6Ql6gTjAglO38zu6V/damxeJliwwmrPpBZD7V63pilFpUNIuuUGdNdw== X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-01/txt/msg00219.txt.bz2 On 2017-01-17 10:25, Andrey Repin wrote: >> installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal >> pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64 > Root directory with space or other ambiguous character may cause > interoperability issues. >> to our security >> team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this >> folder. > Repackaging an installed Cygwin release may also cause issues. > Please refer to http://cygwin.com/faq/#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures f.e. It's the org's problem if they want to spend a lot of time and money packaging a frequently updated non-Windows install process, which is a Unix-distro-like rolling upgrade. If they are taking on the role of a distro they should really be packaging each package install, with its dependencies, separately, like any other downstream, and doing their own setup. If they were smarter, they'd just package Setup with a fixed mirror, or maintain their own local mirror, and package updating from that mirror using Setup, maybe even become and offer a public Cygwin mirror? It's the requesters' and packagers' problems to read and understand the Setup process, FAQ, and postinstall scripts - probably why it takes 2 months - getting some random Windows package scripter to understand a Unix-like net install of packages and dependencies - and stuff that into an msi that works reliably under SCCM. Get them to start packaging the current release and upgrades right away, otherwise something else may have changed by the time they start! And they should always be packaging installs using the defaults, like C:\Cygwin64 not %ProgramFiles%, if they want to avoid problems with users running programs and scripts. Quite a few Windows packages still want their own directory under root, as they prioritize their own stable approach over MS Windows approaches. Easier for the little guys with simple products, and the big guys making lots of millions mainly on Windows, but lots of others go their own way. Following "standards" is all very well, but what product manager is going to be able to get signoff on spending a year and $1M or more to change a complex working product and install process to the MS approach? Product users don't care as long as the result works on their desktops, and they won't notice or pay more for a Windows logo - that only "benefits" the marketing department, so they should be footing the bill for making and testing the product conforms. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple