On 8/2/2019 5:26 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2019-08-02 08:34, Ken Brown wrote: >> On 8/1/2019 10:32 PM, Ken Brown wrote: >>> On 8/1/2019 5:17 PM, Ken Brown wrote: >>>> On 8/1/2019 12:04 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>>>> On Aug 1 10:38, Eric Blake wrote: >>>>>> Could it be a case of xwin-xdg-menu calling signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_IGN) or >>>>>> similar, and accidentally letting grep inherit the ignored SIGPIPE? >>>>> >>>>> execve doesn't propagate the signal dispositions, they get reset to >>>>> default. >>>> >>> I just built a version of grep in which I added 'signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_DFL)', and >>> the error is gone. So it looks like grep has in fact been receiving SIGPIPE, >>> and for some reason it is not using the default signal handler for SIGPIPE in a >>> terminal started by xwin-xdg-menu. Could this be a gtk issue? Does it mess >>> with the signal handlers? >> >> I think I've finally got it. >> >> First of all, here's what POSIX says about signal handlers after an exec: >> >> "Signals set to the default action (SIG_DFL) in the calling process >> image shall be set to the default action in the new process image. >> Except for SIGCHLD, signals set to be ignored (SIG_IGN) by the calling >> process image shall be set to be ignored by the new process image. >> Signals set to be caught by the calling process image shall be set to >> the default action in the new process image (see )." >> >> Second, here's a quote from the GTK+ documentation for gtk_init(): >> >> "Since 2.18, GTK+ calls signal (SIGPIPE, SIG_IGN) during initialization, >> to ignore SIGPIPE signals, since these are almost never wanted in >> graphical applications. If you do need to handle SIGPIPE for some >> reason, reset the handler after gtk_init(), but notice that other >> libraries (e.g. libdbus or gvfs) might do similar things." >> >> Third, xwin-xdg-menu calls gtk_init() near the beginning of main(). >> >> Putting this all together, Eric's explanation is indeed correct. All >> processes created by xwin-xdg-menu via fork/exec inherit the property of >> ignoring SIGPIPE. >> >> I don't know if this is a bug, but it certainly leads to surprising >> behavior. Jon, maybe xwin-xdg-menu needs to call signal(SIGPIPE, >> SIG_DFL) either after calling gtk_init() or before calling exec()? > > How does that relate to this only happening in the latest snapshot, and not in > the current release, or any Linux system? It does happen in the current release, as I said earlier in the thread. There's no way to test it on Linux. xwin-xdg-menu is a Cygwin-specific program (written by Jon). > I would certainly expect any shell (or any other program handling pipes) to set > or reset SIGPIPE handling, rather than accept any default. Take a look at the bash source code and the grep source code. You'll see that neither one of them does this. And I don't know why you would expect it. Suppose I write a program that creates a pipe, sets SIGPIPE to be ignored, and then creates a grep subprocess with stdout set to the write end of that pipe. By doing so, I've clearly indicated my intention that grep should ignore SIGPIPE. Why should grep overrule my choice? And how would grep even know that it's writing to a pipe? Ken BKCB؛[H\ܝΈY[K؛[\˚[BTNY[K٘\KB[][ێY[K˚[B[XܚXH[ΈY[K[ [XܚXK\[\CBB