From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18325 invoked by alias); 29 Dec 2004 01:26:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 18204 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2004 01:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dessent.net) (66.17.244.20) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 29 Dec 2004 01:26:02 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dessent.net) by dessent.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CjSdB-0004b0-9l for cygwin@cygwin.com; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:28:05 +0000 Message-ID: <41D20866.8BE70468@dessent.net> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:26:00 -0000 From: Brian Dessent Organization: My own little world... MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: "Hyperthreading" problems References: <41D1D2B2.4030200@exalead.com> <41D1DEA4.1080304@exalead.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2004-12/txt/msg00934.txt.bz2 Stephane Donze wrote: > If you guys want cygwin to be used by real people, in real life > production or development environments, you should go a bit further than > "I don't have the problem on my computer, so fix it yourself". If you > don't want to or are not able to pay attention to "real world" bugs, > cygwin will probably never be more than an "almost working" program > that runs on your computer the time to take nice screenshots, but fails > miserably when users try to make it work in the real life. The real problem here is as follows: Chris and the other core developers cannot reproduce the bug on their systems. The people reporting the bug can neither create a simple test case that demonstrates it, nor debug the Cygwin internals and point to a specific defect. So until one side of this equation changes nothing is going to get fixed, no matter how hard people beg, whine, and plead. It's not about being uncaring or whatever, it's just the way software development works. You can't even start to try to fix something that you cannot see or reproduce and have nothing to work with. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/