RE: Can't get list of download sites

RE: Can't get list of download sites

[Hughes, Bill]

> Sent: 20 February 2004 17:01 From: Christopher Faylor
> >>FWIW, WFM.
> >
> >I didn't parse this last correctly as standard acronyms and 
> thought cgf
> >was having an even worse day than usual and had escalated WJM to the
> >next level...  Have a nice weekend,
> 
> If I am understanding your misinterpretation correctly you can rest
> assured that I try hard to avoid the use of or implication of 
> profanity
> in my messages although I'm sure an occasional RT?M has slipped by.
> 
> However, that said, for the longest time, I habitually read WFM as
> exactly what I think you think it means.
> 
> cgf
I think you thought... forget that ;-)
I actually meant to put a smiley on the last post, I was hoping it wouldn't
be taken as objection/criticism. It was just that it put a smile on my face
on a cold tedious day.

Bill
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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Christopher J. White]

>>>>> "soh" == Soh Kok Hong <kokhong-at-post1-dot.com> writes:

soh> My question would be why offer "Direct Connection" if it is not going
soh> to work?

A little patience maybe?  I tried Cygwin setup about the same time you
reported your original problem.  It failed for me as well (in IE mode
as well).  The difference between you and me?  I waited a day and it
cleared up...the net is a funny beast at times...

...cj

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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Larry Hall]

At 09:37 PM 2/20/2004, Soh Kok Hong you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Thank you for your help.  I found that using the "Use IE5 Settings" connection mode works.  Performing a packet trace shows that this mode adds a bit more text in the HTTP transactions:
>
>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.1\r\n
>If-Modified-Since: <deleted>\r\n
>If-None-Match: <deleted>\r\n
>User-Agent: Cygwin Setup\r\n
>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
>Connection: Keep-Alive\r\n
>\r\n
>
>My question would be why offer "Direct Connection" if it is not going to work?


I find trying to get around with crutches or with a cane to be extremely 
difficult for me.  I'm always kicking the cane by mistake and tripping over 
it.  Crutches get caught under things and they make my arms ache.  
Fortunately, my legs work fine for me so I don't need crutches or a cane
to get around.  But I don't consider the cane or the crutches broken just
because they don't work for me.  And for some people, they are a necessity. 
It's the same thing with the different settings in setup.  You shouldn't 
assume something is broken just because you haven't figured out a way to 
make it work for you.


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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Igor Pechtchanski]

The answer to your question is: "Because it works for me". ;-)
Why complain if you found something that works?
	Igor

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Soh Kok Hong wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for your help.  I found that using the "Use IE5 Settings"
> connection mode works.  Performing a packet trace shows that this mode
> adds a bit more text in the HTTP transactions:
>
> GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.1\r\n
> If-Modified-Since: <deleted>\r\n
> If-None-Match: <deleted>\r\n
> User-Agent: Cygwin Setup\r\n
> Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
> Connection: Keep-Alive\r\n
> \r\n
>
> My question would be why offer "Direct Connection" if it is not going to
> work?
>
> Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Soh Kok Hong wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I seem to be having problem with running setup.exe because it says
> >>"Can't get the list of download sites.".  This is what I've found so far:
> >>
> >>1. I can use my mozilla browser to access
> >>http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/mirrors.lst
> >>
> >>2. Performed a packet trace on setup.exe and found the following HTTP
> >>transaction by setup.exe:
> >>
> >>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
> >>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
> >>\r\n
> >>
> >>and remote site reset the TCP link.
> >>
> >>3. I ran "telnet sources.redhat.com 80" and executed the above
> >>instructions and it failed as expected
> >>
> >>4. I then tried the telnet again with the following instructions:
> >>
> >>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
> >>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
> >>User-Agent: cygwin
> >>\r\n
> >>
> >>And it works!
> >>
> >>P.S. I do not use a web proxy and I don't think my ISP uses a
> >>transparent proxy.
> >
> >Make sure you didn't install and run any firewall software.  Also, try the
> >"Use IE5 Settings" connection mode in setup.
> >
> >>I suggest that the setup.exe program be fixed so that the download can work.
> >
> >Feel free to check out the sources (for instructions see
> ><http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html>) and send in a patch.
> ><http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC>.
> >       Igor

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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 10:37:11AM +0800, Soh Kok Hong wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Thank you for your help.  I found that using the "Use IE5 Settings" 
>connection mode works.  Performing a packet trace shows that this mode 
>adds a bit more text in the HTTP transactions:
>
>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.1\r\n
>If-Modified-Since: <deleted>\r\n
>If-None-Match: <deleted>\r\n
>User-Agent: Cygwin Setup\r\n
>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
>Connection: Keep-Alive\r\n
>\r\n
>
>My question would be why offer "Direct Connection" if it is not going to 
>work?

It *does* work.  It works for thousands of people.

If it doesn't work for you don't automatically assume that it is broken.
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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Soh Kok Hong]

Hi,

Thank you for your help.  I found that using the "Use IE5 Settings" 
connection mode works.  Performing a packet trace shows that this mode 
adds a bit more text in the HTTP transactions:

GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.1\r\n
If-Modified-Since: <deleted>\r\n
If-None-Match: <deleted>\r\n
User-Agent: Cygwin Setup\r\n
Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
Connection: Keep-Alive\r\n
\r\n

My question would be why offer "Direct Connection" if it is not going to 
work?

Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Soh Kok Hong wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I seem to be having problem with running setup.exe because it says
>>"Can't get the list of download sites.".  This is what I've found so far:
>>
>>1. I can use my mozilla browser to access
>>http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/mirrors.lst
>>
>>2. Performed a packet trace on setup.exe and found the following HTTP
>>transaction by setup.exe:
>>
>>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
>>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
>>\r\n
>>
>>and remote site reset the TCP link.
>>
>>3. I ran "telnet sources.redhat.com 80" and executed the above
>>instructions and it failed as expected
>>
>>4. I then tried the telnet again with the following instructions:
>>
>>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
>>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
>>User-Agent: cygwin
>>\r\n
>>
>>And it works!
>>
>>P.S. I do not use a web proxy and I don't think my ISP uses a
>>transparent proxy.
>>    
>>
>
>Make sure you didn't install and run any firewall software.  Also, try the
>"Use IE5 Settings" connection mode in setup.
>
>  
>
>>I suggest that the setup.exe program be fixed so that the download can work.
>>    
>>
>
>Feel free to check out the sources (for instructions see
><http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html>) and send in a patch.
><http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC>.
>	Igor
>  
>

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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 04:32:32PM -0000, Hughes, Bill wrote:
>>Sent: 20 February 2004 13:42 From: Christopher Faylor
>>
>>I suppose that theory will be corroborated soon as the complaints flood
>>into this mailing list.  Or not.
>>
>>FWIW, WFM.
>
>I didn't parse this last correctly as standard acronyms and thought cgf
>was having an even worse day than usual and had escalated WJM to the
>next level...  Have a nice weekend,

If I am understanding your misinterpretation correctly you can rest
assured that I try hard to avoid the use of or implication of profanity
in my messages although I'm sure an occasional RT?M has slipped by.

However, that said, for the longest time, I habitually read WFM as
exactly what I think you think it means.

cgf

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RE: Can't get list of download sites

[Hughes, Bill]

> Sent: 20 February 2004 13:42 From: Christopher Faylor
> 
> I suppose that theory will be corroborated soon as the 
> complaints flood
> into this mailing list.  Or not.
> 
> FWIW, WFM.
I didn't parse this last correctly as standard acronyms and thought cgf was
having an even worse day than usual and had escalated WJM to the next
level...
Have a nice weekend,
			Bill
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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Soh Kok Hong wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I seem to be having problem with running setup.exe because it says
> "Can't get the list of download sites.".  This is what I've found so far:
>
> 1. I can use my mozilla browser to access
> http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/mirrors.lst
>
> 2. Performed a packet trace on setup.exe and found the following HTTP
> transaction by setup.exe:
>
> GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
> Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
> \r\n
>
> and remote site reset the TCP link.
>
> 3. I ran "telnet sources.redhat.com 80" and executed the above
> instructions and it failed as expected
>
> 4. I then tried the telnet again with the following instructions:
>
> GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
> Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
> User-Agent: cygwin
> \r\n
>
> And it works!
>
> P.S. I do not use a web proxy and I don't think my ISP uses a
> transparent proxy.

Make sure you didn't install and run any firewall software.  Also, try the
"Use IE5 Settings" connection mode in setup.

> I suggest that the setup.exe program be fixed so that the download can work.

Feel free to check out the sources (for instructions see
<http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html>) and send in a patch.
<http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC>.
	Igor
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Re: Can't get list of download sites

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 07:07:57PM +0800, Soh Kok Hong wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I seem to be having problem with running setup.exe because it says 
>"Can't get the list of download sites.".  This is what I've found so far:
>
>1. I can use my mozilla browser to access 
>http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/mirrors.lst
>
>2. Performed a packet trace on setup.exe and found the following HTTP 
>transaction by setup.exe:
>
>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
>\r\n
>
>and remote site reset the TCP link.
>
>3. I ran "telnet sources.redhat.com 80" and executed the above 
>instructions and it failed as expected
>
>4. I then tried the telnet again with the following instructions:
>
>GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
>Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
>User-Agent: cygwin
>\r\n
>
>And it works!
>
>I suggest that the setup.exe program be fixed so that the download can work.

Hmm.  So, your theory is that no one is able to download anything using
setup.exe and that setup.exe needs to be fixed.

I suppose that theory will be corroborated soon as the complaints flood
into this mailing list.  Or not.

FWIW, WFM.

cgf

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Can't get list of download sites

[Soh Kok Hong]

Hi,

I seem to be having problem with running setup.exe because it says 
"Can't get the list of download sites.".  This is what I've found so far:

1. I can use my mozilla browser to access 
http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/mirrors.lst

2. Performed a packet trace on setup.exe and found the following HTTP 
transaction by setup.exe:

GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
\r\n

and remote site reset the TCP link.

3. I ran "telnet sources.redhat.com 80" and executed the above 
instructions and it failed as expected

4. I then tried the telnet again with the following instructions:

GET /cygwin/mirrors.lst HTTP/1.0\r\n
Host: sources.redhat.com\r\n
User-Agent: cygwin
\r\n

And it works!

I suggest that the setup.exe program be fixed so that the download can work.

P.S. I do not use a web proxy and I don't think my ISP uses a 
transparent proxy.



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