* RE: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
@ 2004-04-23 11:58 Hughes, Bill
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From: Hughes, Bill @ 2004-04-23 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Dave Korn', cygwin
> Sent: 23 April 2004 11:52 From: Dave Korn
..snip..
> There's a broad concensus among the spamfighting community
> that there
> isn't actually any email-address-snarfing software out there
> that actually
> does bother to attempt to demunge addresses. When non-munged
> addresses are
> out there to be spidered off the web and hoovered up from
> usenet by their
> tens of millions, why bother going to the effort of writing
> extra code, when
> the spammers can already get more addresses than they know
> what to do with
> anyway?
I'd concur, until everyone mungs their address (I can't at work) there's
little incentive for the spammers to bother. It's an interesting point to
consider - why would a spammer _want_ to decode a munged email as this
clearly shows that the addressee doesn't want spam and the only likely
response is going to be Spamcop et al? Of course that pre-supposes any
intelligence on the part of spammers which is even more debateable.
> Seriously, it really seems to be the case that it just
> doesn't happen to
> any significant extent.
Yet, but I hope I'm wrong.
> Talk to n.a.n.a.e for more information.
YJM!
There my be people of tender years on this list who shouldn't be exposed to
nanae, of course nanau is arguably worse. Hmm, I'm going to check for
a.f.cygwin when I get home (or a.f.$DEVNAME...)
Some people may think cgf is a bit tetchy sometimes (normally with good
reason) but they obviously haven't spent much time on usenet.
My favourite is sci.physics.relativity for truly staggering levels of wilful
ignorance and perversity.
Thanks Dave, you brought back some happy memories :-)
Bill
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* i want to re-download all packages... how?
@ 2004-04-22 15:23 electa
2004-04-22 15:42 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
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From: electa @ 2004-04-22 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on a
CD-RW!
--> setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't download
them...
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* Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
2004-04-22 15:23 electa
@ 2004-04-22 15:42 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
2004-04-22 16:00 ` electa
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From: Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes @ 2004-04-22 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
> i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
> now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on a
> CD-RW!
> --> setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't download
> them...
In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
the "All" category to "Reinstall"?
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* Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
2004-04-22 15:42 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
@ 2004-04-22 16:00 ` electa
2004-04-22 16:45 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
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From: electa @ 2004-04-22 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my
cygwin-CD!
"Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes" <sthoenna@efn.org> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:20040422153719.GB3920@efn.org...
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
> > i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
> > now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on
a
> > CD-RW!
> > --> setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't
download
> > them...
>
> In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
> the "All" category to "Reinstall"?
>
>
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* Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
2004-04-22 16:00 ` electa
@ 2004-04-22 16:45 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
2004-04-23 9:40 ` [OT] Email address. " Jani tiainen
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From: Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes @ 2004-04-22 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it again
to get the uninstalled packages.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote:
> it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my
> cygwin-CD!
>
> "Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes" <sthoenna@efn.org> ha scritto nel messaggio
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Please feed the spammers my email address; it can only be a drop in the
bucket over the 10-30 Mb/day I get now. :)
> news:20040422153719.GB3920@efn.org...
> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:00:50PM +0200, electa wrote:
> > > i have some packeges installed, but i have lost their .bz2 files...
> > > now i want to retrieve all packages because I would like to put them on
> a
> > > CD-RW!
> > > --> setup.exe knows what packages i have alreay installed and don't
> download
> > > them...
> >
> > In download to local directory mode, try toggling the selector next to
> > the "All" category to "Reinstall"?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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* [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
2004-04-22 16:45 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
@ 2004-04-23 9:40 ` Jani tiainen
2004-04-23 10:34 ` Jani tiainen
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From: Jani tiainen @ 2004-04-23 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
> So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it again
> to get the uninstalled packages.
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote:
>
>>it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my
>>cygwin-CD!
>>
>>"Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes" <sthoenna@efn.org> ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Please feed the spammers my email address; it can only be a drop in the
> bucket over the 10-30 Mb/day I get now. :)
Everyone who writes on a mailinglist that will be archived on net in
very searchable way shouldn't expose real e-mail address.
This is like leaving your door unlocked while leaving your house/apartment.
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* Re: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
2004-04-23 9:40 ` [OT] Email address. " Jani tiainen
@ 2004-04-23 10:34 ` Jani tiainen
2004-04-23 11:33 ` Dave Korn
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From: Jani tiainen @ 2004-04-23 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Jani tiainen wrote:
> Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
>
>> So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it
>> again
>> to get the uninstalled packages.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote:
>>
>>> it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all
>>> for my
>>> cygwin-CD!
>>>
>>> "Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes" <sthoenna@efn.org> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Please feed the spammers my email address; it can only be a drop in the
>> bucket over the 10-30 Mb/day I get now. :)
>
>
> Everyone who writes on a mailinglist that will be archived on net in
> very searchable way shouldn't expose real e-mail address.
>
> This is like leaving your door unlocked while leaving your house/apartment.
Err, and do you really think that spam-mail-address gatherers are so
stupid that they can't extract mail from <somename at somewhere dot com>
format..? That's trivial regexp, and so what if there is few bogus
adresses..? They mail to millons of addresses so few boguses that
program extracting addresses might create doesn't matter anyway.
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* RE: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?
2004-04-23 10:34 ` Jani tiainen
@ 2004-04-23 11:33 ` Dave Korn
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From: Dave Korn @ 2004-04-23 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Jani tiainen
> Sent: 23 April 2004 10:41
> Err, and do you really think that spam-mail-address gatherers are so
> stupid
Rule #1 in full effect!
> that they can't extract mail from <somename at
> somewhere dot com> format..?
Yes, actually.
There's a broad concensus among the spamfighting community that there
isn't actually any email-address-snarfing software out there that actually
does bother to attempt to demunge addresses. When non-munged addresses are
out there to be spidered off the web and hoovered up from usenet by their
tens of millions, why bother going to the effort of writing extra code, when
the spammers can already get more addresses than they know what to do with
anyway?
Seriously, it really seems to be the case that it just doesn't happen to
any significant extent.
Talk to n.a.n.a.e for more information.
cheers,
DaveK
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