setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[George R Nelson]

As a newcomer to cygwin, my attempts to download from ctgwin.com or a
number of mirror sites all failed with signature errors. WHy do I get
this problem? The error I get is:

Setup.ini signature http://cygwin.com/setup.bz2.sig from
http//cygwin.com failed to verify.

I have managed to download cygwin using the setup.exe from redhat.

On a related topic, is there any way to change the URL for the
download? Or do you just add download sites then highlight the one you
wish to use?

Finally, I am trying to build some C sources using cygwin but the
build fails as it is not finding some libraries: libsocket.a, libnsl.a
and libxnet.a. I've searched both the package lists and the installed
libraries without success. I am sure that the functions defined in
these libraries do exist in the cygwin distribution but may be in
differently named libraries. Can anybody help?

Many thanks,

George Nelson

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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[Larry Hall (Cygwin)]

George R Nelson wrote:
> As a newcomer to cygwin, my attempts to download from ctgwin.com or a
> number of mirror sites all failed with signature errors. WHy do I get
> this problem? The error I get is:
> 
> Setup.ini signature http://cygwin.com/setup.bz2.sig from
> http//cygwin.com failed to verify.
> 
> I have managed to download cygwin using the setup.exe from redhat.

So what were you downloading it with before?  'setup.exe' is the
prescribed way to download (for installation) and/or install.  If you
want a mirror, you want to use another tool but barring that,
stick with 'setup.exe'.

> On a related topic, is there any way to change the URL for the
> download? Or do you just add download sites then highlight the one you
> wish to use?

There are plenty of download sites in the list to choose from.  But if
you want another one not listed, you can add it by typing it into the
edit control below the list and clicking "Add".  Then you can select it
from the list.  You can select up to 4 from the list.

> Finally, I am trying to build some C sources using cygwin but the
> build fails as it is not finding some libraries: libsocket.a, libnsl.a
> and libxnet.a. I've searched both the package lists and the installed
> libraries without success. I am sure that the functions defined in
> these libraries do exist in the cygwin distribution but may be in
> differently named libraries. Can anybody help?

Not significantly with that description.  I'd recommend reading the
problem reporting guidelines and trying again if you're still having
problems.  The guidelines can be found at the link below.

> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html



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 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[George R Nelson]

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin)
<reply-to-list-only-lh@cygwin.com> wrote:
> George R Nelson wrote:
>>
>> As a newcomer to cygwin, my attempts to download from ctgwin.com or a
>> number of mirror sites all failed with signature errors. WHy do I get
>> this problem? The error I get is:
>>
>> Setup.ini signature http://cygwin.com/setup.bz2.sig from
>> http//cygwin.com failed to verify.
>>
>> I have managed to download cygwin using the setup.exe from redhat.
>
> So what were you downloading it with before?  'setup.exe' is the
> prescribed way to download (for installation) and/or install.  If you
> want a mirror, you want to use another tool but barring that,
> stick with 'setup.exe'.

I downloaded setup.exe from the cygwin site - my apologies as I
presumed that was assumed. This failed as described with the signature
error. I then downloaded setup.exe from the Redhat site and that
worked on the Redhat site. The setup.exe from Cygwin did not work on
the Redhat site or any of the mirrors I tried. Since I had no idea how
to select a site from the list of sites I had added, I wasn't able to
check if the Redhat setup.exe worked on other systems. It was only
while making this request that it occurred to me that I might be able
to select one from the list by highlighting it.

>
>> On a related topic, is there any way to change the URL for the
>> download? Or do you just add download sites then highlight the one you
>> wish to use?
>
> There are plenty of download sites in the list to choose from.  But if
> you want another one not listed, you can add it by typing it into the
> edit control below the list and clicking "Add".  Then you can select it
> from the list.  You can select up to 4 from the list.
>

The setup.exe I downloaded had an empty download list. I added
cygwin.com and got the error described. I then added a mirror from the
list on the ctgwin site and that too produced the same error. Likewise
any mirror I picked from the site displayed the same signature error.
The Redhat setup.exe had their own site added to the list already.

>> Finally, I am trying to build some C sources using cygwin but the
>> build fails as it is not finding some libraries: libsocket.a, libnsl.a
>> and libxnet.a. I've searched both the package lists and the installed
>> libraries without success. I am sure that the functions defined in
>> these libraries do exist in the cygwin distribution but may be in
>> differently named libraries. Can anybody help?
>
> Not significantly with that description.  I'd recommend reading the
> problem reporting guidelines and trying again if you're still having
> problems.  The guidelines can be found at the link below.
>

I have read the submission guidlines and the installation
documentation as well as searching the FAQ before submitting. I could
find no details on the steps carried out by setup.exe or any
explanation of the error I was getting. I have read the relevant
portions of the user guide and all other links that I could follow
from the initial description of how to get cygwin but could find
nothing that described how to select a URL from the list that I had
created.


>> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
>
>
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> A: Yes.
>> Q: Are you sure?
>>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?
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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[Larry Hall (Cygwin)]

George R Nelson wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin)
> <reply-to-list-only-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote:
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<>.  Thanks.

>> George R Nelson wrote:
>>> As a newcomer to cygwin, my attempts to download from ctgwin.com or a
>>> number of mirror sites all failed with signature errors. WHy do I get
>>> this problem? The error I get is:
>>>
>>> Setup.ini signature http://cygwin.com/setup.bz2.sig from
>>> http//cygwin.com failed to verify.
>>>
>>> I have managed to download cygwin using the setup.exe from redhat.
>> So what were you downloading it with before?  'setup.exe' is the
>> prescribed way to download (for installation) and/or install.  If you
>> want a mirror, you want to use another tool but barring that,
>> stick with 'setup.exe'.
> 
> I downloaded setup.exe from the cygwin site - my apologies as I
> presumed that was assumed. This failed as described with the signature
> error. 

 From <http://cygwin.com/>:

The signature for setup.exe can be used to verify the validity of this 
binary using this public key.

Sounds like your download didn't work for some reason.  Try again.

See the link below for background:

<http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2008-08/msg00001.html>

I then downloaded setup.exe from the Redhat site and that
> worked on the Redhat site. The setup.exe from Cygwin did not work on
> the Redhat site or any of the mirrors I tried. 

Cygwin != Red Hat.  Use Cygwin's site for Cygwin and support from this
site.

> Since I had no idea how
> to select a site from the list of sites I had added, I wasn't able to
> check if the Redhat setup.exe worked on other systems. It was only
> while making this request that it occurred to me that I might be able
> to select one from the list by highlighting it.

 From <http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html#setup-mirror>:

Since there is no way of knowing from where you will be downloading Cygwin, 
you need to choose at least one mirror site. Cygwin mirrors are 
geographically distributed around the world; check the list at 
http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html to find one near you. You can select multiple 
mirrors by holding down CTRL and clicking on each one.

>>> On a related topic, is there any way to change the URL for the
>>> download? Or do you just add download sites then highlight the one you
>>> wish to use?
>> There are plenty of download sites in the list to choose from.  But if
>> you want another one not listed, you can add it by typing it into the
>> edit control below the list and clicking "Add".  Then you can select it
>> from the list.  You can select up to 4 from the list.
>>
> 
> The setup.exe I downloaded had an empty download list. I added
> cygwin.com and got the error described. I then added a mirror from the
> list on the ctgwin site and that too produced the same error. Likewise
> any mirror I picked from the site displayed the same signature error.
> The Redhat setup.exe had their own site added to the list already.
> 
>>> Finally, I am trying to build some C sources using cygwin but the
>>> build fails as it is not finding some libraries: libsocket.a, libnsl.a
>>> and libxnet.a. I've searched both the package lists and the installed
>>> libraries without success. I am sure that the functions defined in
>>> these libraries do exist in the cygwin distribution but may be in
>>> differently named libraries. Can anybody help?
>> Not significantly with that description.  I'd recommend reading the
>> problem reporting guidelines and trying again if you're still having
>> problems.  The guidelines can be found at the link below.
>>
> 
> I have read the submission guidlines and the installation
> documentation as well as searching the FAQ before submitting. I could
> find no details on the steps carried out by setup.exe or any
> explanation of the error I was getting. I have read the relevant
> portions of the user guide and all other links that I could follow
> from the initial description of how to get cygwin but could find
> nothing that described how to select a URL from the list that I had
> created.

See the User's Guide link above.  I think if you read it carefully, it's
pretty clear that you can select from the list of mirrors.  Also, although
'setup.exe' does have a non-standard control for package selection that
has been known to throw some people off, the mirrors list is a standard
Windows list box.  So despite the User's Guide not taking you by the hand
and walking you through the selection of a mirror in the list, generally
speaking I think it's fairly explicit.  I'm guessing that you just glossed
over this part and/or got confused by your attempt to use the 'setup.exe'
you found somewhere on the Red Hat site.

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 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[Larry Hall (Cygwin)]

On 01/16/2009, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> George R Nelson wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin)
> > <reply-to-list-only-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote:
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> <>.  Thanks. 

Ugh!  <> should have been <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>

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 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[George R Nelson]

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin)
<reply-to-list-only-lh@cygwin.com> wrote:
> George R Nelson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Larry Hall (Cygwin)
>> <reply-to-list-only-lh AT cygwin DOT com> wrote:
>
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> <>.  Thanks.
>
>>> George R Nelson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As a newcomer to cygwin, my attempts to download from ctgwin.com or a
>>>> number of mirror sites all failed with signature errors. WHy do I get
>>>> this problem? The error I get is:
>>>>
>>>> Setup.ini signature http://cygwin.com/setup.bz2.sig from
>>>> http//cygwin.com failed to verify.
>>>>
>>>> I have managed to download cygwin using the setup.exe from redhat.
>>>
>>> So what were you downloading it with before?  'setup.exe' is the
>>> prescribed way to download (for installation) and/or install.  If you
>>> want a mirror, you want to use another tool but barring that,
>>> stick with 'setup.exe'.
>>
>> I downloaded setup.exe from the cygwin site - my apologies as I
>> presumed that was assumed. This failed as described with the signature
>> error.
>
> From <http://cygwin.com/>:
>
> The signature for setup.exe can be used to verify the validity of this
> binary using this public key.
>
> Sounds like your download didn't work for some reason.  Try again.
>
> See the link below for background:#

I have tried .... again and again and again. Each time I use the
setup.exe from the cygwin site it fails due to a signature error. This
is the purpose of this request - to find out why that was happening
which is why I went to Redhat to try to get a version of Cygwin I
could download!!!! See comment below.

>
> <http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2008-08/msg00001.html>
>
> I then downloaded setup.exe from the Redhat site and that
>>
>> worked on the Redhat site. The setup.exe from Cygwin did not work on
>> the Redhat site or any of the mirrors I tried.
>
> Cygwin != Red Hat.  Use Cygwin's site for Cygwin and support from this
> site.

Did I ever say Cygwin = Redhat. I think if you read carefully that I
said I downloaded Cygwin from the Redhat site (following a link on the
Cygwin home page - third link down on the left-hand column). The
Redhat site has a version of setup.exe that presumably was built from
the Cygwin setup.exe sources but customised for Redhat. From the User
Guide, chapter 2: Choosing packages there is a link to the setup.exe
home page which takes you to - oh wait -
http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin-apps/setup.html!!!!! But then maybe
you glossed over what I said.

>
>> Since I had no idea how
>> to select a site from the list of sites I had added, I wasn't able to
>> check if the Redhat setup.exe worked on other systems. It was only
>> while making this request that it occurred to me that I might be able
>> to select one from the list by highlighting it.
>
> From <http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html#setup-mirror>:
>
> Since there is no way of knowing from where you will be downloading Cygwin,
> you need to choose at least one mirror site. Cygwin mirrors are
> geographically distributed around the world; check the list at
> http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html to find one near you. You can select multiple
> mirrors by holding down CTRL and clicking on each one.
>
>>>> On a related topic, is there any way to change the URL for the
>>>> download? Or do you just add download sites then highlight the one you
>>>> wish to use?
>>>
>>> There are plenty of download sites in the list to choose from.  But if
>>> you want another one not listed, you can add it by typing it into the
>>> edit control below the list and clicking "Add".  Then you can select it
>>> from the list.  You can select up to 4 from the list.
>>>
>>
>> The setup.exe I downloaded had an empty download list. I added
>> cygwin.com and got the error described. I then added a mirror from the
>> list on the ctgwin site and that too produced the same error. Likewise
>> any mirror I picked from the site displayed the same signature error.
>> The Redhat setup.exe had their own site added to the list already.
>>
>>>> Finally, I am trying to build some C sources using cygwin but the
>>>> build fails as it is not finding some libraries: libsocket.a, libnsl.a
>>>> and libxnet.a. I've searched both the package lists and the installed
>>>> libraries without success. I am sure that the functions defined in
>>>> these libraries do exist in the cygwin distribution but may be in
>>>> differently named libraries. Can anybody help?
>>>
>>> Not significantly with that description.  I'd recommend reading the
>>> problem reporting guidelines and trying again if you're still having
>>> problems.  The guidelines can be found at the link below.
>>>
>>
>> I have read the submission guidlines and the installation
>> documentation as well as searching the FAQ before submitting. I could
>> find no details on the steps carried out by setup.exe or any
>> explanation of the error I was getting. I have read the relevant
>> portions of the user guide and all other links that I could follow
>> from the initial description of how to get cygwin but could find
>> nothing that described how to select a URL from the list that I had
>> created.
>
> See the User's Guide link above.  I think if you read it carefully, it's
> pretty clear that you can select from the list of mirrors.  Also, although
> 'setup.exe' does have a non-standard control for package selection that
> has been known to throw some people off, the mirrors list is a standard
> Windows list box.  So despite the User's Guide not taking you by the hand
> and walking you through the selection of a mirror in the list, generally
> speaking I think it's fairly explicit.  I'm guessing that you just glossed
> over this part and/or got confused by your attempt to use the 'setup.exe'
> you found somewhere on the Red Hat site.
>

No I did not gloss over this part or any other part of the
information. I did find it frustrating that there were so many links
to "additional" information that actually trying to get a detailed
picture was difficult. If you read the user guide then the mirror list
information is misleading. From the quote from the user guide you
make:

"Cygwin mirrors are geographically distributed around the world; check
the list at http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html to find one near you. You
can select multiple mirrors by holding down CTRL and clicking on each
one."

This can be read two ways: the intended meaning or that multiple
mirror sites from the list of mirrors can be selected to add to the
list in setup.exe. This is the meaning I took from it (adding the
copy/paste from the mirror list to the setup.exe window as a given).
The intended meaning may be obvious to you but then you have much more
experience with Cygwin than I do.

 My mistake but given that I was trying to assimilate a large amount
of information it is surely forgiveable but would have been avoided
simply by changing the second sentence above to read:

"You can select multiple mirrors from the setup.exe list by holding
down CTRL and clicking on each one."

Not really difficult and then the message is clear. I have not done
anything non-standard other than use a Redhat customised setup.exe to
get Cygwin downloaded. I reported the problem I had with setup.exe in
case it was a bug on the site in an attempt to be a "good citizen".
Believe me I spent many hours reading the Cygwin site documentation to
try to find a solution to my problem without success. In other words I
clicked on every link on every page that I felt was relevant. This is
how I ended up at the Redhat site and found a "solution".

It is clear that newcomers are unwelcome. I am a very experienced
computer professional and have downloaded and installed complex
packages for many products. In this case I found a problem when I
tried to install Cygwin from the Cygwin site, using the Cygwin
setup.exe. It reported a signature error. I tried using a different
mirror site from the mirror list with the same results. I repeated
this for a number of mirror sites all with the same results. The issue
with selecting a mirror from the setup.exe list was an annoying one as
it would start from the top and work its way down the list and it had
already dawned on me (as I said in my original submission) that
highlighting a URL before clicking next probably would do the trick -
a simple yes or no to this would have been sufficient. Instead I get
lambasted for not reading the documentation, using non-standard
installation procedures, when all I was trying to do was report a
perceived problem with the setup process and ask for an answer on
something that I had not been able to find in the documentation.

My apologies for taking up time and bandwidth. I have an installer
that works and will resolve any other issues I have with Cygwin
myself.

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>> Q: Are you sure?
>>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?
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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[Larry Hall (Cygwin)]

On 01/16/2009, George R Nelson wrote:
There's only few points I wanted to follow-up on here, since it seems like
you've gotten resolutions to your start-up issues in one form or another.

> Did I ever say Cygwin = Redhat. I think if you read carefully that I
> said I downloaded Cygwin from the Redhat site (following a link on the
> Cygwin home page - third link down on the left-hand column).

Actually, I didn't say that you said Cygwin = Red Hat (and at the risk
of being accused of being antagonistic, it is Red Hat, not Redhat.)  The
fact that Red Hat has an association with the project and has their own
version of the software that they distribute and sell support for is
exactly the point I was trying to make.  I'm not suggesting that you
were somehow inappropriately looking at Red Hat's offering, just that
you were really mixing two separate things that shouldn't be mixed and
that doing so wasn't going to help you.  While I think this is clear to
you now, I wanted to answer it for others that might come across this
thread and have similar confusion.

> My apologies for taking up time and bandwidth. I have an installer
> that works and will resolve any other issues I have with Cygwin
> myself.

It seems you've misinterpreted my responses.  I was not lambasting you
for not reading documentation.  I was pointing you to Cygwin documentation
that addressed some of the specific issues you raised.  As you say, there
is allot of documentation there and there are allot of posters here who
don't read it or even if they do, miss some key points.  So I was pointing
to some specific things that I thought would help you with some specific
problems you mentioned.  But my pointer to <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>
was actually in response to your general inquiry for help with some C
sources you were building and the issues you were having getting things
to link.  Perhaps I needed to be more direct there but I try hard not
to cover the same ground that is already covered in existing links.  OK,
my bad.  Let's see if I can rectify that with you.  You need to provide
specific code, command line invocations of the compiler/linker, and error
statements that are emitted in this process, in addition to basic boot-strap
configuration information requested at the above link, in order for someone
on this list to take a stab at what the solution to your problem might be.

Well, that's all I can do.  I'll bow out of this thread now, in case you
want to continue it with someone else, taking into account the information
I mentioned that will be needed for someone else on this list to continue
fruitfully.  I would ask, if I could, that you read this link before replying:

<http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>

I realize that I only included the placeholder in my original reply to you
and that this was the reply that you felt was lambasting you, so you had
little incentive to heed my follow-up which included it. But other
responders to you would likely appreciate the courtesy.

Good luck,


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Re: setup.exe 2.573.2.3 signature failure

[Dave Korn]

George R Nelson wrote:
> As a newcomer to cygwin, my attempts to download from ctgwin.com or a
> number of mirror sites all failed with signature errors. WHy do I get
> this problem? The error I get is:
>
> Setup.ini signature http://cygwin.com/setup.bz2.sig from
> http//cygwin.com failed to verify.

  You can't actually install directly from the main cygwin.com site!  You
have to use one of the mirrors.  The error message is misleading; it should
have complained earlier when it couldn't download setup.bz2, and not gone on
to try (and fail) to verify the non-existent signature for the
non-existent file!

> On a related topic, is there any way to change the URL for the
> download? Or do you just add download sites then highlight the one you
> wish to use?

  Well, you shouldn't just add sites by guesswork at all!  The standard list
of site should be filled out with the entries derived from
http://cygwin.com/mirrors.lst, and you should just select one from the list by
highlighting it.

  Reading some of your replies downthread, I think the problem is twofold:

1.  For some unknown reason, setup.exe failed to fetch mirrors.txt and
therefore couldn't populate the list of default sites.

2.  When you started adding mirror sites manually, you got the syntax wrong.
The links on http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html just point to the front page of
the mirror sites, if you enter them in the text box in setup.exe it won't work
because it needs the full path to where the cygwin release directory lives on
the mirror.  If you look at http://cygwin.com/mirrors.lst in a browser, you'll
see that the full syntax usually includes a directory path as well as the
mirror name.

    cheers,
      DaveK

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