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From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" <reply-to-list-only-lh@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Why /usr/bin/*.dll must be executable?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 02:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F936CEA.8090202@cygwin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F91DEBA.9030903@gmail.com>

On 4/20/2012 6:10 PM, Mike Kaganski wrote:
<snip>

> Any code that may be executed (directly or indirectly) must have "x" under
> *nix. Windows had tried to make somewhat similar (with the same security
> concerns in mind) in its NT family, but it had to deal with file systems
> that have no notion of "executability" (FAT), so the notion was introduced
> in NTFS, but is not honored (thus, "execute" ACL permission is useless in
> Windows).

Huh?  It is honored on NTFS.  I'm assuming that's what you meant.

> As Cygwin tries to emulate *nix, I suppose, it explicitly checks executable
> bit on loading files. So it's not correct to state that "this is completely
> Windows loader thing", but this thing is conceptually correct, so live with it.

As I said before, Cygwin doesn't run executables.  Cygwin is not an O/S.
Windows is the O/S.  It has the job of running executables, loading them,
following any dependencies (DLLs), and loading those.  While Cygwin does
emulate POSIX permissions using Windows ACE/ACLs, it is up to Windows to
enforce these permissions.  But setting permissions is not the same as
having some control over the loading executables.  Sorry.

-- 
Larry

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-22  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-20 13:03 De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 13:05 ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 13:08 ` Václav Zeman
2012-04-20 16:18   ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 16:28     ` Corinna Vinschen
2012-04-20 17:25       ` Nellis, Kenneth
2012-04-20 17:29         ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-20 17:37           ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 17:46             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-20 17:40           ` Nellis, Kenneth
2012-04-20 17:32       ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 17:41         ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-20 17:47           ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 17:58             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-20 18:21               ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-20 18:43                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-20 22:10                 ` Mike Kaganski
2012-04-22  2:29                   ` Larry Hall (Cygwin) [this message]
2012-04-20 18:05             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-23 19:01   ` Warren Young
2012-04-23 20:16     ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-23 22:13       ` Warren Young
2012-04-23 23:55       ` Richard Troy
2012-04-24  0:19         ` Warren Young
2012-04-24 16:49           ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2012-04-20 19:06 ` Jon TURNEY
2012-04-21  3:37   ` De-Jian Zhao
2012-04-23 19:02   ` Warren Young
2012-04-23 19:26     ` David Sastre Medina

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