1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

[Chris Brouwer]

Hello,

I have just installed Cygwin 1.17.14-2 using the setup.exe.

I use Console (portable; from Portableapp.Com) as my entry to bash. I 
created an extra tab definition for Console, which starts cygwin.bat. 
Works as expected, so far.
The odd thing is, if I want to use, eg cd ~, the tilde is not shown, but 
the backtick "`" is.

I have tried this when calling cygwin.bat from Explorer, effectively 
starting cygwin from cmd.exe, and then the "~" works as expected.

Does anyone else experience this ?

Does anyone have a solution for this ?

Thanks in advance.

Chris.


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Re: 1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

[Csaba Raduly]

Hi Chris,

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Chris Brouwer  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just installed Cygwin 1.17.14-2 using the setup.exe.
>
> I use Console (portable; from Portableapp.Com) as my entry to bash. I
> created an extra tab definition for Console, which starts cygwin.bat. Works
> as expected, so far.
> The odd thing is, if I want to use, eg cd ~, the tilde is not shown, but the
> backtick "`" is.

You mean the backtick appears _instead_of_ the tilde? That would be a
problem with the keyboard layout. Do you have a British layout?
(http://www.goodtyping.com/teclatUK.htm)

Csaba
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Re: 1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

[David Sastre Medina]

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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:43:23PM +0200, Chris Brouwer wrote:
> I have just installed Cygwin 1.17.14-2 using the setup.exe.
> 
> I use Console (portable; from Portableapp.Com) as my entry to bash.
> I have tried this when calling cygwin.bat from Explorer, effectively
> starting cygwin from cmd.exe, and then the "~" works as expected.
> 
> Does anyone have a solution for this ?

Yes. Just use mintty. It's the default and it works.

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Re: 1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

[Andrew DeFaria]

On 05/06/2012 05:54 AM, David Sastre Medina wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:43:23PM +0200, Chris Brouwer wrote:
>> I have just installed Cygwin 1.17.14-2 using the setup.exe.
>>
>> I use Console (portable; from Portableapp.Com) as my entry to bash.
>> I have tried this when calling cygwin.bat from Explorer, effectively
>> starting cygwin from cmd.exe, and then the "~" works as expected.
>>
>> Does anyone have a solution for this ?
> Yes. Just use mintty. It's the default and it works.
I use mintty and Console. One good thing about Console it understands 
pty's or does something in the face of pty's that cause it to work in 
certain circumstances that mintty fails in. My example is cleartool. In 
mintty (or when mintty has ssh'ed to a remote system - sorry not on my 
work XP machine to test...) when I type cleartool I get no prompt. This 
is a long standing issue with cleartool on Windows using standard 
"console output" and that not working with ptys. Console, however, 
works. IIRC I think I saw it running a child cmd process. So maybe it 
runs things in there and grabs output to be displayed or read from.

I wish mintty could be made to do that...
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Re: 1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

[JonY]

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On 5/7/2012 02:16, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 05:54 AM, David Sastre Medina wrote:
>> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:43:23PM +0200, Chris Brouwer wrote:
>>> I have just installed Cygwin 1.17.14-2 using the setup.exe.
>>>
>>> I use Console (portable; from Portableapp.Com) as my entry to bash.
>>> I have tried this when calling cygwin.bat from Explorer, effectively
>>> starting cygwin from cmd.exe, and then the "~" works as expected.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this ?
>> Yes. Just use mintty. It's the default and it works.
> I use mintty and Console. One good thing about Console it understands
> pty's or does something in the face of pty's that cause it to work in
> certain circumstances that mintty fails in. My example is cleartool. In
> mintty (or when mintty has ssh'ed to a remote system - sorry not on my
> work XP machine to test...) when I type cleartool I get no prompt. This
> is a long standing issue with cleartool on Windows using standard
> "console output" and that not working with ptys. Console, however,
> works. IIRC I think I saw it running a child cmd process. So maybe it
> runs things in there and grabs output to be displayed or read from.
> 
> I wish mintty could be made to do that...

Console, like the normal Windows Command Prompt does not understand
PTYs, rather, it's the side effect of the PTY emulation you're seeing.

Sounds like your app is doing some line buffering because it thinks the
stdio is done via pipes when working with PTYs. There's nothing to be
done on the Cygwin side to fix this.


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Re: 1.7.14-2: bash not accepting "~" (tilde) from keyboard in Console (WIN7)

[Daniel Colascione]

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On 5/6/12 11:16 AM, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>> Yes. Just use mintty. It's the default and it works.
> I use mintty and Console. One good thing about Console it understands
> pty's or does something in the face of pty's that cause it to work in
> certain circumstances that mintty fails in. My example is cleartool.
> In mintty (or when mintty has ssh'ed to a remote system - sorry not on
> my work XP machine to test...) when I type cleartool I get no prompt.

Have you tried the conin program? You can get it from the mintty
repository here: https://code.google.com/p/mintty/source/browse/utils/

It lets you run a child process with stdin coming from a real Windows
console, through which conin proxies your input. IME, it makes most
programs believe they're being run interactively.


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