Emacs 24 can't find org library

Emacs 24 can't find org library

[kete]

I tried to export an org file, and Emacs said it "Can't find org library".
Regards,
Kete

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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Ken Brown]

On 5/31/2012 12:18 PM, kete@ninthfloor.org wrote:
> I tried to export an org file, and Emacs said it "Can't find org library".

Please give complete, detailed instructions for reproducing the problem, 
preferably starting with 'emacs -Q'.  I don't use Org, so your 
instructions shouldn't assume I know anything about it.

Ken Brown
Cygwin's emacs maintainer


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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Kenneth W Foy, Jr]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:12:48 -0400, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 10/22/2012 5:42 PM, Kete Foy wrote:
>> Thanks, I will try those if necessary. I imagine it will be 
>> necessary if Emacs
>> ships with an old (7.8) version of Org-mode. That's why it doesn't 
>> make sense
>> that Ken had success with exporting an org file
>
> I think that indicates that your problems don't have anything to do
> with the Org-mode version.
>
>> I was too lazy to clarify that Debian provides 7.9.1, but the 
>> important thing
>> is that 7.9 is available and provides the library that Emacs lacks. 
>> That's all
>
> What library is it that you think Emacs lacks?  Did you try
> installing emacs-el as I suggested in one of my messages of October
> 21?
>
Thanks, Ken, I just exported an org file after installing emacs-el. I 
appreciate your patience.
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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Kete Foy]

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 09:12:48 AM Ken Brown wrote:
> Did you try installing
> emacs-el as I suggested in one of my messages of October 21?

Not yet, but I will try that first when I get back to the Windows computer.

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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Ken Brown]

On 10/22/2012 5:42 PM, Kete Foy wrote:
> Thanks, I will try those if necessary. I imagine it will be necessary if Emacs
> ships with an old (7.8) version of Org-mode. That's why it doesn't make sense
> that Ken had success with exporting an org file

I think that indicates that your problems don't have anything to do with 
the Org-mode version.

> I was too lazy to clarify that Debian provides 7.9.1, but the important thing
> is that 7.9 is available and provides the library that Emacs lacks. That's all

What library is it that you think Emacs lacks?  Did you try installing 
emacs-el as I suggested in one of my messages of October 21?

Ken


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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Kete Foy]

On Monday, October 22, 2012 01:02:57 PM Achim Gratz wrote:
> Kete Foy writes:
> > If you could package the new Org-mode version of 7.9.2 like Debian
> > does, I think it would fix this problem, and I would appreciate it.
> 
> Ken packages Emacs releases, including whatever version of Org that
> comes with it.  Debian does exactly the same, btw (Sebastien Delafond
> provides an Org-mode package for Debian, but 7.9.2 is certainly not part
> of the distribution yet).
> 
> If you want to run the latest Org-mode, I suggest you install it via the
> package manager, details on how to do that are here:
> 
> http://orgmode.org/elpa.html
> 
> The above is directly from the development branch, if you'd rather use
> the latest release version plus bugfixes, use the package at
> 
> http://elpa.gnu.org/
> 
> instead (the latter requires no extra configuration with Emacs 24).
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.
Thanks, I will try those if necessary. I imagine it will be necessary if Emacs 
ships with an old (7.8) version of Org-mode. That's why it doesn't make sense 
that Ken had success with exporting an org file, but I will test with 'emacs -
Q'.

I was too lazy to clarify that Debian provides 7.9.1, but the important thing 
is that 7.9 is available and provides the library that Emacs lacks. That's all 
I'm using; I have no need for the latest point release. I'm just saying, if 
someone packaged it, now, it would be 7.9.2, but I could have left off the '2' 
to avoid being corrected.

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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Achim Gratz]

Kete Foy writes:
> If you could package the new Org-mode version of 7.9.2 like Debian
> does, I think it would fix this problem, and I would appreciate it.

Ken packages Emacs releases, including whatever version of Org that
comes with it.  Debian does exactly the same, btw (Sebastien Delafond
provides an Org-mode package for Debian, but 7.9.2 is certainly not part
of the distribution yet).

If you want to run the latest Org-mode, I suggest you install it via the
package manager, details on how to do that are here:

http://orgmode.org/elpa.html

The above is directly from the development branch, if you'd rather use
the latest release version plus bugfixes, use the package at

http://elpa.gnu.org/

instead (the latter requires no extra configuration with Emacs 24).


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Ken Brown]

On 10/21/2012 10:23 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 10/21/2012 3:56 PM, Kete Foy wrote:
>> Ken,
>> Thanks for your reply on May 31 (URL at bottom), to reproduce the
>> issue, start
>> an org file by naming it anything.org. Then, try to export it with the
>> following keybinding: C-c C-e. I had this same problem in Debian, and the
>
> It appears to work for me.  I visited an empty file called anything.org,
> and I typed C-c C-e.  This gave me a list of choices of format for the
> export.  I didn't take it any further.
>
> As I said in my first reply, I don't use Org mode, so maybe I'm missing
> something.  If so, please give me *detailed* instructions as to what to
> do.  Then tell me what happens when you do it and what you think should
> happen.
>
>> Freenode #emacs channel helped me figure out it was due to the old
>> version of
>> Org-mode. 7.9.1 fixes this problem, but Debian ships Emacs with 7.8.*.
>> To see
>> the Org-mode version, please type M-x org-version RET. If you could
>> package
>> the new Org-mode version of 7.9.2 like Debian does, I think it would
>> fix this
>
> I don't know what Debian does, but my Cygwin emacs packages include
> whatever version emacs ships.  I'm not interested in packaging a
> different version of Org-mode and hoping it works with the current emacs.
>
>> problem, and I would appreciate it. 7.8 probably can't do other org
>> commands
>> like a bug report either (M-x org-submit-bug-report RET).
>
> Again, this appears to work for me, so you'll need to give details if
> you're having a problem with it.  And please follow the
> problem-reporting guidelines as given here:
>
>    http://cygwin.com/problems.html
>
> Ken

By the way, do you have the emacs-el package installed?  This provides 
the elisp sources for the emacs libraries.  I recall an emacs bug report 
indicating that these are needed for some of the Org-mode commands.


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Re: Emacs 24 can't find org library

[Ken Brown]

On 10/21/2012 3:56 PM, Kete Foy wrote:
> Ken,
> Thanks for your reply on May 31 (URL at bottom), to reproduce the issue, start
> an org file by naming it anything.org. Then, try to export it with the
> following keybinding: C-c C-e. I had this same problem in Debian, and the

It appears to work for me.  I visited an empty file called anything.org, 
and I typed C-c C-e.  This gave me a list of choices of format for the 
export.  I didn't take it any further.

As I said in my first reply, I don't use Org mode, so maybe I'm missing 
something.  If so, please give me *detailed* instructions as to what to 
do.  Then tell me what happens when you do it and what you think should 
happen.

> Freenode #emacs channel helped me figure out it was due to the old version of
> Org-mode. 7.9.1 fixes this problem, but Debian ships Emacs with 7.8.*. To see
> the Org-mode version, please type M-x org-version RET. If you could package
> the new Org-mode version of 7.9.2 like Debian does, I think it would fix this

I don't know what Debian does, but my Cygwin emacs packages include 
whatever version emacs ships.  I'm not interested in packaging a 
different version of Org-mode and hoping it works with the current emacs.

> problem, and I would appreciate it. 7.8 probably can't do other org commands
> like a bug report either (M-x org-submit-bug-report RET).

Again, this appears to work for me, so you'll need to give details if 
you're having a problem with it.  And please follow the 
problem-reporting guidelines as given here:

   http://cygwin.com/problems.html

Ken


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