From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35769 invoked by alias); 17 Apr 2019 16:13:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 35760 invoked by uid 89); 17 Apr 2019 16:13:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 spammy=H*RU:sk:broadba, HX-Spam-Relays-External:sk:broadba, sitting, H*r:sk:broadba X-HELO: mail-lj1-f178.google.com Received: from mail-lj1-f178.google.com (HELO mail-lj1-f178.google.com) (209.85.208.178) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:13:56 +0000 Received: by mail-lj1-f178.google.com with SMTP id f23so1591888ljc.0 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:13:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:references:from:autocrypt:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=gm22FUcONey6RAFpVdiMQlVs6o5FXDtYoDRxYPgcA00=; b=d5u3xcPBYXg5uQ4z90s/GTIpatKwCQhFFlMyql2TLWz1n7cZjrtwFZ8pnruW2/aZ3l IS53TVDMbLWdyoJp9fEKmCA36lNbk7zEKmJFC0+GLRZ831bdqUCVOVGPm+0BSSyEYceI Cpu7C2XCAO0TRFB8LXuj5zNes8mvO4H2n4f+gRL1pkirUNCmmom4W9GShT1r6szDfRip CGi5cS37uqGmCBNKPz/jX4Dtj73kNsiz+4sxM5b8+WkUhxirDw78S/dwrVb2+jNLDf0Z HpWQjcZnSWY30AH3Gfsf0NeJ5qM8K87oEwYrfmmKIAeLvUNkLHUOYDEhArovrhew2Phd ckkA== Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.4.39] (broadband-95-84-200-6.ip.moscow.rt.ru. [95.84.200.6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b25sm10847930lje.71.2019.04.17.09.13.52 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:13:52 -0700 (PDT) To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <461ebfd6-3497-68db-61e4-ff7061ebfd50@gmail.com> <0d0e9175-b5a7-bcbf-efbc-82fa517ef5e2@SystematicSw.ab.ca> From: LRN Subject: Re: Are my emails being filtered out? Message-ID: <4be758f6-287a-11ea-7978-a329dd86e097@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:13:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0d0e9175-b5a7-bcbf-efbc-82fa517ef5e2@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VGemRod48YGG0k1qtGulrKzhkAP8BQZhP" X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2019-04/txt/msg00126.txt.bz2 --VGemRod48YGG0k1qtGulrKzhkAP8BQZhP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6mbmVkXFH8PVpouJaQcp8uJk1YQSGlJq6"; protected-headers="v1" From: LRN To: cygwin@cygwin.com Message-ID: <4be758f6-287a-11ea-7978-a329dd86e097@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are my emails being filtered out? --6mbmVkXFH8PVpouJaQcp8uJk1YQSGlJq6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 4163 On 17.04.2019 18:30, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2019-04-17 02:06, LRN wrote: >> I've been sending emails to this list for a couple of weeks now, and no >> one replies. Do these messages come through at all? >=20 > The best way to initiate discussion may be replying to a previous post ab= out a > package in the relevant group with patches (see below), or an email with = a new > well written, specific subject. TL/DR version: i'm doing things correctly, AFAIU, CMIIW. I was sending messages to this list, the subject was 'cygwin port of glib'. That seems specific enough for me. If there's a detail that i forgot to men= tion in the subject, please advice, i'll gladly include it. There was initially a reply (by Erik M. Bray), so i guess it could also be counted as "replying t= o a previous post" as well. > All participants are volunteers, with busy jobs, lives, or families, who = also > take trips and vacations. > Some maintain dozens, hundreds, or thousands of Cygwin packages, may part= icipate > or work upstream, in other distros, packages, products, or standards grou= ps. > You may have months but they may have only minutes or seconds for a topic= - > respect that: "We are now living on Internet time" - Andy Grove, Intel, 1= 997. I probably wasn't clear. "A few months" is not the time that i can devote to this topic. It's the soft deadline that i've been given. The specific person i'm trying to communicate with doesn't seem to be on vacation (there was a message from that person in this mailing list yesterd= ay, and eight days ago as well). As for being busy, i'm ok with an "i'm busy, w= ill reply later" reply. I certainly not expect anyone to drop everything and de= vote all their time to researching the issues i raised. I do expect some kind of acknowledgement though. Guess i'm one of those people that don't like being ignored (and that's how it looks like, from where i'm sitting). >=20 > The relevant groups for patch submission and discussion are cygwin-apps f= or > apps, cygwin-patches for winsup..., newlib for other library files, to wh= ich you > must subscribe, or the upstream maintainer via email on the source site, > normally using git format-patch/send-email against the latest sources, wi= th well > written, specific subjects and commit log entries. I'm not submitting any patch or a package, i have a question about a patch = that was already submitted in the past. cygwin-announce is obviously the wrong choice for this. cygwin-apps also seems a bad choice (i'm not a maintainer, and it's forbidd= en to subscribe to that list to ask questions about packages, which is what i = want to ask). cygwin-developers is for devs only (i was already asked to not to post ther= e in the past, when i had a question tangentially-related to Cygwin, and my curr= ent question certainly does not qualify as "related to Cygwin development"). cygwin-patches is for patch submissions only cygwin-talk is not for technical questions. That leaves this list ("In general, you should send questions and bug repor= ts here"). The website that corresponds to the package in question is http://cygwinports.org/ , though its mailing list prescriptions are somewhat contradictory ("Issues with packages provided by Cygwin Ports in the Cygwin distribution should use the usual Cygwin mailing lists[i.e. this list?]. Please, do NOT send messages about the packages previously shipped here to = the cygwin.com lists[i.e. this list?]."). Maybe i'm lacking some crucial piece = of context information (does "packages previously shipped here" have some spec= ial meaning?). >=20 > If the upstream source site has public email archives, issue or bug track= er, you > may be able to search for relevant Cygwin or maintainer content, or you m= ay have > to ask the maintainer if an issue has already been raised with them. >=20 cygwinports github site (section? repository group? user? I don't know how = it's called on github) seems kind of bare. Looks like a mirror to me (i could be wrong, of course). No issues or PRs for the glib2.0 package either, so i ca= n't be sure that anything i submit there is going to be noticed by anyone. --6mbmVkXFH8PVpouJaQcp8uJk1YQSGlJq6-- --VGemRod48YGG0k1qtGulrKzhkAP8BQZhP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-length: 833 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE4MWzR43wYaAzEA49ja3pJ2dZunQFAly3ULgACgkQja3pJ2dZ unTG1xAAi4/b9MQLOfNCTpEc9MzYztGI9b/vkz8iM/HBB3qNvLSonfNQwf3AGhpX ZhDo9QCDFRVYoFpm26p7RpJ8urzVPNJRZCiSntCKpUGSeIZBvV4UV2ZF7Tp/CHje 5jmAeDhFSP1uw8ocBX7dR47xW0J7qrdJWbKB+bS+4tCJKSWmF5uiARBaKVinVK3k YhnVRwySiFrex7UYCGTyro/rvCxbfQGzZJoyD7pLoWnmYs+QmVXEm2RjJn3EeaND V6ZLBTcSX/HDLpgodUiZa/vBpUIT0IlZ0yS8QnUT06q2c7/hBqkFG7z/VudZK1NT utDXgZ2jQLSs/91BnE2qlk5qPKuQ2nUEZj/d6sDQDUHCkwJWnXOAh1KHZ/lB+7ki IhwRtJY7MGIhlMAj0Fr5M82GzL/po02P4ZPSOD3fm1udTsZqifIPfVYNzIz1d0WK KDVFedDX/GKg/pkvIY4xeX0zSZ53tNRFK3dzuPSSLGi/QcK1OZMY8ZTj+hdYS2eX NQSFCDMjR9RTH6EuvwgXDUonsih5I3ZDQS3DmnwiX7Ni+lzXtL8118UG2nMTPzit oBbgRTTSg88gTATtLu17x03Xk6XzLO7ZetCwNrMGPhph9BCIbntf1LjJCkxCjBy/ kPGkiuu0vjHrSbQpnF6uv8Bc+iYFHfov8xYAKKruB2Kod5cAkPw= =kb45 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VGemRod48YGG0k1qtGulrKzhkAP8BQZhP--