From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12821 invoked by alias); 31 Jul 2012 22:35:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 12589 invoked by uid 22791); 31 Jul 2012 22:35:27 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,SPF_HELO_PASS,TW_SZ,TW_ZG,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mx3.mail.elte.hu (HELO mx3.mail.elte.hu) (157.181.1.138) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:35:10 +0000 Received: from mailbox1.caesar.elte.hu ([157.181.151.157]) by mx3.mail.elte.hu with esmtp (Exim) id 1SwL1w-0004Zd-60 from for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:35:08 +0200 Received: (Authenticated sender: szgyg) by mailbox1.caesar.elte.hu with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SwL1v-0000L1-R7 for cygwin@cygwin.com; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:35:07 +0200 Message-ID: <50185D8C.2000801@ludens.elte.hu> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:35:00 -0000 From: szgyg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; hu; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.20 ThunderBrowse/3.81 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Setup shows ? instead of size for some packages References: <501370E3.60506@mvseac.com> <50145AC7.2020202@ludens.elte.hu> <5015BA05.6090901@mvseac.com> In-Reply-To: <5015BA05.6090901@mvseac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELTE-SpamScore: -8.0 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-8.0 required=5.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,L_AUTH autolearn=ham SpamAssassin version=3.3.1 -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -5.0 L_AUTH Caesar auth -2.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2012-07/txt/msg00669.txt.bz2 [keep it on the list, please] On 7/30/2012 12:32 AM, L Anderson wrote: > szgyg wrote: >> On 7/28/2012 6:56 AM, L Anderson wrote: >>> Call me slow to notice but I'm seeing more packages appearing with size >>> ? mark in the "View" window when I run cygwin setup. Also, I notice that >> >> No, it isn't a problem. Those packages don't have any binary content, >> that's why setup.exe show ? as their size. We use them when more than >> one package is generated from the same upstream source, e.g. >> libsomething1, libsomething-devel and something-doc. In this case the >> package something, with "(source)" in its description, will contain the >> source, and the other packages will contain the binary stuff. What Aaron >> has described is another possible source of ? sizes, but then the >> packages would be in the Misc category, as setup.exe wouldn't have the >> category info either. > > Thanks, > > Another thing I noticed is that under the "New" column of > setup.exe-View, the items are "Skip" where I haven't installed the > source packages. In those cases, when I toggle the "Skip", the version > numbers shows and the sizes are filled in and remain so even if I toggle > back to "Skip". > > The case Aaron described is not my case because I use my own mirror and > everything is there. So I guess I'm curious as to why source packages > are not treated the same as binary packages when it comes to size. A package consists of a binary and a source part (you can install them separately by ticking the checkboxes on the package selection dialog), and setup.exe shows size of the binary part by default, as usually this is what you want to install. The split source packages are results of afterthought. They add another level of indirection by representing the source/binary distinction not only on the part level, but on the package level too. However, setup.exe knows nothing about this, so it can't handle those packages very well. szgyg -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple