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From: Peter Buckley <peter.buckley@cportcorp.com>
To: "'cygwin@cygwin.com'" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: press for cygwin
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:34:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A89B19AEAAD411B9D200A0C9FB5699E88EB0@craius.cportcorp.com> (raw)

I emailed the author-

I read your cygwin/OpenSSH article at win2kmag.com-

I didn't care for it. You are proposing an unsupported method 
to install the cygwin toolset- even without this press for cygwin, 
the cygwin mailing list gets an email a week about "I installed 
with winzip, and something doesn't work." Many of the developers 
are tired of answering people who don't follow basic directions 
that are there for good reasons- winzip can't handle necessary 
things like symlinks- and sometimes they are a little curt with 
people who have cygwin problems and have shot themselves in 
the foot by performing a half-baked install. 

You might want to check the archives of the cygwin mailing 
list to see the numerous messages about broken installs due 
to not following directions. 

Also- you don't mention setting the CYGWIN variable to "ntsec", 
which I believe is required based on the openssh-2.9p2.readme 
(for sshd to work or be secure). 

You are setting a lot of people up for frustration and failure by 
recommending an incomplete/unsupported installation of these tools-
when installed correctly, the cygwin toolset is fantastic. 

Maybe you should read and point people to http://tech.erdelynet.com .
It has an excellent cygwin and ssh setup section, and ssh mailing list.
Of course, YOU probably won't get all the pleas for help from people 
following your directions- the cygwin list/developers will.

I think you should more carefully consider the implications of your article
before you 
let someone publish it. "Does a man build a tower without first considering 
whether he has the time and materials to build it?" I forget what verse that
is. 

Even though I disagree with you on the article, 
I want to thank you for helping out with crosswalk.com.

-Peter

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             reply	other threads:[~2001-08-30 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-30 14:34 Peter Buckley [this message]
2001-08-30 14:57 ` Christopher Faylor
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-06  1:55 jmarshall
2001-09-05  5:04 jmarshall
2001-09-05  8:52 ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-03  8:56 Bernard Dautrevaux
2001-09-03  6:52 Bernard Dautrevaux
2001-09-03  7:56 ` Charles Wilson
2001-09-03  8:14   ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-03  8:45     ` Michael Schaap
2001-09-03  9:03       ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-03  9:30         ` Andrew Markebo
2001-09-03  9:36           ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-03 15:23     ` Robert Collins
2001-09-03 18:23       ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-03 19:17         ` Charles Wilson
2001-09-03 19:35         ` Robert Collins
2001-09-04  9:52     ` Warren Young
2001-09-04 12:52       ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-05 18:04         ` Warren Young
2001-09-07 12:27           ` Warren Young
2001-09-07 12:35             ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-07 14:22               ` Warren Young
2001-09-07 14:43                 ` Christopher Faylor
2001-08-31  7:36 Mark Bradshaw
2001-08-31  8:07 ` Charles Wilson
2001-08-31 10:29 ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-08-31 17:09 ` Robert Collins
2001-08-31  0:34 Press for Cygwin Peter Ring
2001-08-30 14:31 yap_noel
2001-08-30 15:38 ` Eric M. Monsler
2001-08-30 14:10 Robinow, David
2001-08-30 14:24 ` Charles Wilson
2001-08-30 13:47 Robinow, David
2001-08-30 12:57 Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-08-30 13:07 ` Christopher Faylor
2001-08-30 13:12   ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-08-30 13:25     ` Christopher Faylor
2001-08-30 13:37     ` Jonathon Merz
2001-08-30 14:04       ` Charles Wilson
2001-08-30 13:29   ` Rick Rankin
2001-08-30 13:33   ` Gerrit P. Haase
2001-08-30 13:42   ` Michael Schaap
2001-08-30 13:50     ` Christopher Faylor
2001-08-30 14:01       ` Michael Schaap
2001-08-30 14:06   ` Christopher Faylor
2001-09-02 20:24   ` John Marshall
2001-08-30 13:56 ` Gerrit P. Haase
2001-08-30 14:03   ` Michael F. March
2001-08-30 14:12     ` Michael Schaap
2001-08-30 14:06   ` Charles Wilson

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