From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19331 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 2013 14:22:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 19317 invoked by uid 89); 28 Jun 2013 14:22:56 -0000 X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (HELO out1-smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.25) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.84/v0.84-167-ge50287c) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:22:55 +0000 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038A20F49 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [50.88.95.51]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A7210C00E84; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51CD9C39.8000907@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:38:00 -0000 From: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 1.7.20: cygicons-0.dll has gone missing References: <6CF2FC1279D0844C9357664DC5A08BA20D913A@MLBXV06.nih.gov> <0D835E9B9CD07F40A48423F80D3B5A7021D8C894@USA7109MB022.na.xerox.net> <51CC3936.5060302@gmail.com> <257023591.20130628141617@mtu-net.ru> In-Reply-To: <257023591.20130628141617@mtu-net.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2013-06/txt/msg00725.txt.bz2 On 6/28/2013 6:16 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: >>>> The cygutils package was recently split into cygutils-extra and >>>> cygutils-x11. Install cygutils-extra. >>> >>> Doesn't this suggest that cygicons-0.dll should be included >>> in the base cygwin package? > >> base does not needs icons, so in IMHO no. > > That's a bit flawed line, IMO. > Default install should put user's system in a consistent working order. > Missing icons is not something I would call "consistent". What part of a default install [1] *requires* icons from cygicon-0.dll? Now, if you're talking about updating an existing cygwin installation via setup.exe [with no special package selection], then yeah -- this is a *known* breakage. But it's better than the previous *known issue* where a default "Base" install [1] would pull in python and bits of X11. THAT is what this packaging change was intended to fix, and because we did so deliberately in order to break requires: dependencies, we couldn't very well avoid the problem you see by adding those same requires: dependencies right back. Summary: READ the cygwin-announce list. Always. KNOW what you're doing when you upgrade. AND, if you didn't do that...when you see an error due to a "routine upgrade"...go back and DO read that list. [1] And by "default install" I mean "new installation of cygwin, using setup.exe, on a virgin system that has never before had cygwin installed", where NO special package selection is made. E.g. a "Base" installation. And really, missing icons doesn't break a darn thing. It just makes things look less pretty, temporarily, until you manually install the correct package. -- Chuck -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple