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From: Andrey Repin <anrdaemon@yandex.ru>
To: Corinna Vinschen <cygwin@cygwin.com>, cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5354135.20141128190818@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141128124814.GM3810@calimero.vinschen.de>

Greetings, Corinna Vinschen!

>> >> The meaning of the schemata depend on the setting:
>> >> 
>> >>   db_home:
>> >> 
>> >>     windows         AD and SAM: Utilizes the setting of the homeDrive or
>> >>                   homeDirectory attributes, or their SAM "Home folder"
>> >>                   counterparts.  The Windows path is converted to a
>> >>                   POSIX path.
>> 
>> > I'm not really happy with this.  It requires to write some value to the
>> > homeDrive/homeDirectory attributes, because it doesn't fall back to the
>> > Windows default values.
>> 
>> > So, another question is this:  Shall "db_home: windows" fall back
>> > to the default Windows home dir if homeDrive/homeDirectory are empty?
>> 
>> Yes, if you mean it.
>> I mean, if you intend to use the same directory OS using for user's home
>> directory, you gotta use something that resembles the OS behavior.

> Good point.  It's just a bit lengthy to implement.

I can imagine.

>> >>   db_shell:
>> >> 
>> >>     windows         Ignored.  Do you want CMD instead?
>> 
>> > Would be interesting for symmetry only, I guess...
>> 
>> With bogus quoting rules of CMD? It would just not work straight, I'm
>> afraid. May be better with PS, but I'm not familiar with it, and I don't know
>> anyone, who's familiar or even considering it's use as a shell interpreter.

> Lots of people do.  You won't believe in how many scenarios the
> users use Cygwin tools from CMD.

I trust you. For I'm one of those people, is not for any other reason.
However, I know exactly what I'm doing, and what to expect from it all.

> If we implement the above, we
> would just have to add a cmd wrapper script in /bin to make sure
> $PATH is set correctly and to make sure CMD starts up in $HOME,
> something along the lines of:

>   $ cat /bin/cmd
>   #!/bin/dash
>   PATH=/bin:$PATH
>   cd $HOME
>   # Don't rely on COMSPEC!
>   cmd=$(cygpath -ua "${SYSTEMROOT}\\System32\\CMD.EXE")
>   exec "${cmd}"

I hope you don't expect it to work inside mintty. Cygwin tools may function
properly in this case, but the shell itself - I have my doubts. And other
native tools would certainly have issues with encoding, if not with any output
at all.
Said that, it would need to be a simple .cmd file, so that it'd run in native
console.
Something like

@ECHO OFF
PATH=%~dp0;%PATH%
START "" /B "%SystemRoot%\System32\cmd.exe" /K
EXIT


--
WBR,
Andrey Repin (anrdaemon@yandex.ru) 28.11.2014, <18:17>

Sorry for my terrible english...


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-28 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-10 20:52 Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-10 21:18 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-10 21:39   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11  7:30     ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11  0:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11  2:42   ` Andrew DeFaria
2014-11-11  6:35     ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11  9:15   ` Frank Fesevur
2014-11-11 15:20     ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11  1:39 ` Jeffrey Altman
2014-11-11  6:19   ` Warren Young
2014-11-11  9:33     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 10:00   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 13:52     ` Jeffrey Altman
2014-11-11 16:19       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11  4:26 ` Yaakov Selkowitz
2014-11-11  6:05   ` Warren Young
2014-11-11  6:50   ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11  9:00     ` Marco Atzeri
2014-11-11  6:09 ` Warren Young
2014-11-11 10:18   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 11:06     ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 11:14       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 12:48         ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-12 16:27           ` Warren Young
2014-11-12 16:31           ` Warren Young
2014-11-12 17:55             ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-12 21:28               ` cyg Simple
2014-11-12 21:51                 ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-13  9:06                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-12 22:35                 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 16:45         ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 16:55           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-26 21:16         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-26 21:29           ` Cygwin AD schema and configuration extensions (was Re: RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory) Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-26 21:56             ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-27  9:36               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 14:52                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 19:23                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-27 20:12                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28  2:21                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-26 21:58             ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-26 23:15               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 16:12           ` RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 17:41           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 12:48             ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-28 16:20               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 17:04                 ` Andrey Repin [this message]
2014-11-28 18:34                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-29  9:36                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-01 17:50                       ` cyg Simple
2014-12-02  5:35                         ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-03 14:05                           ` cyg Simple
2014-12-03 20:20                             ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-04 12:21                               ` Linda Walsh
2014-12-04 13:47                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-02 16:03                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 16:17             ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-03  7:35           ` Cygwin AD integration home/shell changes Andrey Repin
2014-12-03  9:16             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-03 13:50               ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-04  9:40                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05  5:20                   ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-05 10:13                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05 20:20                       ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-06 10:08                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-04 15:49           ` RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05  5:35             ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-05 10:15               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05 21:20                 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-06 11:08                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-10 20:52                   ` cyg Simple
2014-12-10 22:50                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-10 23:29                     ` David Stacey
2014-11-11 11:09     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 12:11     ` Bryan Berns
2014-11-11 12:31       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 15:35     ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 16:57       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 20:20         ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-12 10:30           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-12 20:35             ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-13  9:07               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-13 21:50                 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-14 10:32                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-17  4:05                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-12 16:45     ` Warren Young
2014-11-13  9:27       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-13 22:05         ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-14 10:35           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 10:01 Houder

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