From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10318 invoked by alias); 5 May 2014 15:23:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 10306 invoked by uid 89); 5 May 2014 15:23:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-ie0-f175.google.com Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (HELO mail-ie0-f175.google.com) (209.85.223.175) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES128-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Mon, 05 May 2014 15:23:29 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id rl12so8244673iec.34 for ; Mon, 05 May 2014 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uRbifsLGPU2nn+qbSp+2/7rbUoYglCcRtZl682YglrE=; b=dJUKQ5Re0qqr74XntrDefGR+FFM8vZhAnquv4DjDc75jqebSAEXjbZdR0kN/Z6wH5a nSWZZ3Sz3kKsJBl2xtQOviiJWfOQGJjNbw4xwVWexY3jxnOlrjyTiIUdQJw11AAMLPow QjwM9in24PYGmJ0u8w5lIP3FwKvzECMcNEh2flcHidAG2nTW3CtAXxIWhvm7pndRDINg yOLUtLxhKUR+yg/oN3xXPOqVRh22fZ3xjkT+rRY0bZ3rWJ5VcUVER9KACpDpFpOtagf3 C55dmM7w6ZJR2qNxA0UKJZIkg/JWFwGooGY8dv6biWwto+lOlEbyc3pjxZuYY7iPL5Br xi1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlCg6SvCP4TcAfSHAjnONxQr9KuOYIIE3luMrpvc3OM8takEaP7ewEBqUxub/aoT/S1LAEg X-Received: by 10.50.153.72 with SMTP id ve8mr24652570igb.16.1399303407649; Mon, 05 May 2014 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.15.33] ([174.47.110.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l11sm4681141igt.12.2014.05.05.08.23.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 May 2014 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5367ACED.40409@breisch.org> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 15:23:00 -0000 From: "Chris J. Breisch" User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.9 (Windows/20140128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Problem with "None" Group on Non-Domain Members References: <536796E4.2090009@breisch.org> <20140505135928.GK30918@calimero.vinschen.de> <53679D5C.5030209@breisch.org> <20140505144745.GA6993@calimero.vinschen.de> In-Reply-To: <20140505144745.GA6993@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2014-05/txt/msg00063.txt.bz2 Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > I wasn't talking about the POSIX permissions, but about the Windows > ACL. In your current dir, what does `icacls .' print? Maybe that > gives a clue. Mea culpa. I should read better. I could have included that the last time. $ icacls . . WIN8-VM\Chris:(F) BUILTIN\Users:(RX) Everyone:(RX) NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users:(OI)(CI)(IO)(M) CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)(F) CREATOR GROUP:(OI)(CI)(IO)(RX) Everyone:(OI)(CI)(IO)(RX) Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files That doesn't seem too terribly strange to me. > >> [...] >> Taking the example one step farther: >> >> $ chmod 600 bar >> $ ls -l bar >> -rw-rw---- 1 Chris None 0 May 5 10:10 bar >> $ chmod 400 bar >> $ ls -l bar >> -r--r----- 1 Chris None 0 May 5 10:10 bar > > vmbert8164+lcorinna@vmbert8164 ~ > $ chmod 400 bar > > vmbert8164+lcorinna@vmbert8164 ~ > $ ls -l bar > -r-------- 1 vmbert8164+lcorinna vmbert8164+None 0 May 5 16:41 bar > > So I'd say it's not a generic issue but something in your environment. > It would be nice to know what that is, of course. Maybe there's some > security setting?!? > Thanks for looking into this, Corinna. Apparently this is my problem, and not a Cygwin/Windows issue. That's rather odd, because the two machines I have tested this on are nothing alike, other than both being Windows 8.1 machines. They weren't even set up by the same people, or following the same (or any) script. In both cases, I am logging on to the machine with a "Microsoft Account": http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/account/default.aspx I can attach a cygcheck if you think there's any value in it. Doesn't seem likely, though. I'm looking at what's installed on the machine. More than I thought, but there doesn't appear to be any BLODA. I may try to create a new VM with nothing on it but Cygwin and see what happens. I don't have access to the second machine right now, but I'll dig later. I'll dig a little more on my own. I don't want to waste bandwidth on the Cygwin list for what appears to be a Stupid User Error. Thanks again. -- Chris J. Breisch -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple