* emacs oddity @ 2014-05-21 0:33 Max Polk 2014-05-21 2:24 ` Ken Brown 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Max Polk @ 2014-05-21 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Cygwin list I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the keyboard and the editor is idle.: seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs oddity 2014-05-21 0:33 emacs oddity Max Polk @ 2014-05-21 2:24 ` Ken Brown 2014-05-21 8:12 ` Markus Hoenicka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Ken Brown @ 2014-05-21 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: > I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the keyboard and the editor is idle.: > > seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN > seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 > > The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. Have you tried the test release (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs oddity 2014-05-21 2:24 ` Ken Brown @ 2014-05-21 8:12 ` Markus Hoenicka 2014-05-21 12:01 ` Ken Brown 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say: > On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: >> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from >> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the >> keyboard and the editor is idle.: >> >> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN >> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 >> >> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to >> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. > > Have you tried the test release > (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? > Hi, I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed random crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 since I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks ago. None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs 24) or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because the problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions: Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 blink-cursor-timer-function nil nil 100000], 4 Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H > ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã ^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã ^H \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1 delq] 4 2245674] timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...] All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do not have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols. I'll grab the -x11 build of Ken's test release and see if these odd messages and crashes still occur. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs oddity 2014-05-21 8:12 ` Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 12:01 ` Ken Brown 2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Ken Brown @ 2014-05-21 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say: >> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: >>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from >>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the >>> keyboard and the editor is idle.: >>> >>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN >>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 >>> >>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to >>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. >> >> Have you tried the test release >> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? >> > > Hi, > > I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall > that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed random > crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 since > I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks ago. > None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs 24) > or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because the > problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've > preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions: > > Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 blink-cursor-timer-function > nil nil 100000], 4 > > Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H >> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã ^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã ^H > \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1 > delq] 4 2245674] > > timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low > micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...] > > All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do not > have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the > installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols. You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols. Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs oddity 2014-05-21 12:01 ` Ken Brown @ 2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka 2014-05-21 13:19 ` Markus Hoenicka 2014-06-10 23:35 ` markus.hoenicka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Am 2014-05-21 13:46, schrieb Ken Brown: > On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say: >>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: >>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from >>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching >>>> the >>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.: >>>> >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 >>>> >>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to >>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. >>> >>> Have you tried the test release >>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall >> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed >> random >> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 >> since >> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks >> ago. >> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs >> 24) >> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because >> the >> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've >> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions: >> >> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 >> blink-cursor-timer-function >> nil nil 100000], 4 >> >> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H >>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã ^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã ^H >> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1 >> delq] 4 2245674] >> >> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low >> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...] >> >> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do >> not >> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the >> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols. > > You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols. > Thanks, I've installed it now just in case. Until now, no crashes or weird messages with emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 yet... regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs oddity 2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 13:19 ` Markus Hoenicka 2014-06-10 23:35 ` markus.hoenicka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-05-21 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Am 2014-05-21 13:46, schrieb Ken Brown: > On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say: >>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: >>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from >>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching >>>> the >>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.: >>>> >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 >>>> >>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to >>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. >>> >>> Have you tried the test release >>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall >> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed >> random >> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 >> since >> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks >> ago. >> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs >> 24) >> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because >> the >> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've >> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions: >> >> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 >> blink-cursor-timer-function >> nil nil 100000], 4 >> >> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H >>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Ã ^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Ã ^H >> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1 >> delq] 4 2245674] >> >> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low >> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...] >> >> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do >> not >> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the >> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols. > > You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols. > Thanks, I've installed it now just in case. Until now, no crashes or weird messages with emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 yet... regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs oddity 2014-05-21 12:05 ` Markus Hoenicka 2014-05-21 13:19 ` Markus Hoenicka @ 2014-06-10 23:35 ` markus.hoenicka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: markus.hoenicka @ 2014-06-10 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Markus Hoenicka writes: > Am 2014-05-21 13:46, schrieb Ken Brown: > > On 5/21/2014 3:13 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > >> At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say: > >>> On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: > >>>> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from > >>>> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching > >>>> the > >>>> keyboard and the editor is idle.: > >>>> > >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN > >>>> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 > >>>> > >>>> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to > >>>> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. > >>> > >>> Have you tried the test release > >>> (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? > >>> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall > >> that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed > >> random > >> crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 > >> since > >> I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks > >> ago. > >> None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs > >> 24) > >> or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because > >> the > >> problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've > >> preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions: > >> > >> Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 > >> blink-cursor-timer-function > >> nil nil 100000], 4 > >> > >> Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H > >>> ^[\211^203^Q^@Å^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Å^H > >> \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1 > >> delq] 4 2245674] > >> > >> timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low > >> micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...] > >> > >> All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do > >> not > >> have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the > >> installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols. > > > > You have to install emacs-debuginfo in order to get the symbols. > > > > Thanks, I've installed it now just in case. Until now, no crashes or > weird messages with emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 yet... > > regards, > Markus > Hi, I've been testing emacs-X11-24.3.90-1 for more than two weeks now, and this is what happened: - a few hours after I claimed that there were no problems with this version yet (see above), Emacs crashed again. - I used to start Emacs from gdb for about two weeks, hoping to catch it red-handed. No problems occurred - I reverted to starting Emacs as I had done for years (through startxwin), but I've set up the CYGWIN environment variable to create true core dumps. A couple of days later Emacs crashed again and left a core dump. I've sent that along with a problem description to bug-gnu-emacs AT gnu.org: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=17753 This basically means that the current test release is a major improvement although it did not eliminate crashes altogether. As I do not have any core dumps of the previous Emacs version, I can't even tell whether or not the same bugs are involved. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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