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From: David Stacey <drstacey@tiscali.co.uk>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: static vs. shared linking
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:21:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5529742A.7000902@tiscali.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5526EFDE.4090901@cygwin.com>

On 09/04/15 22:32, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> On 04/09/2015 04:15 AM, David Stacey wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I can't believe that I'm the first person to fall foul of this - any 
>> library
>> that relies heavily on templates risks falling into the same trap.
>
> <snip>
>
> It's true that someone using STL strings has the potential to see this 
> bug
> but I doubt there are allot of template libraries out there pulling 
> the same
> memory trick or doing so with the same catastrophic results. 

It's going to affect all templates that have a static member variable, 
where an instantiation of said template is passed across a DLL boundary. 
Maybe there aren't too many of those.

> In addition,
> this is not the first time this has come up as an issue (for Cygwin or 
> other
> platforms) in one form or another.  Here's a good reference:
>
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16612>

Wow - that was an interesting read, thank you! Obviously a different 
context, but most definitely the same problem. It looks as though I 
stumbled into a bear trap that's been around for at least ten years.

> There they recommend the "--enable-fully-dynamic-string" flag as a 
> solution
> for this particular problem but I agree if the "-frepo" will solve 
> this as
> well, it's better because it manages templates better overall and aligns
> with Linux behavior.

I'm not sure I like '--enable-fully-dynamic-string', because it changes 
the API of std::string, and the two APIs are not interchangeable. So a 
library compiled with '--enable-fully-dynamic-string' can't be used with 
code that omitted that compiler option. You have to use it everywhere or 
not at all.

Poco is a network-centric library for other programmes to use. If I were 
to use '--enable-fully-dynamic-string' in compiling Poco then that would 
force users of the Poco library to use that compiler option too. And if, 
at the same time, they tried to link against another C++ API that wasn't 
built that way then the code wouldn't link - or if it did link it would 
crash when run.

So I either have to use '-frepo' or explicitly export the templates that 
Poco uses. '-frepo' might take longer to compile, and I suspect that it 
will force users of Poco to compile with '-frepo' as well. But it's 
guaranteed to catch other templates that I might have missed, and it 
will work with other C++ libraries that weren't built with 
'--enable-fully-dynamic-string'. So I'll stick with '-frepo'.

Anyway, thanks again for the link - interesting stuff.

Dave.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-11 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-24  8:07 David Stacey
2015-03-24 18:50 ` David Stacey
2015-03-25  9:17   ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-03-25 17:10     ` Warren Young
2015-03-25 22:42       ` David Stacey
2015-03-25 23:28         ` David Stacey
2015-03-25 22:48     ` David Stacey
2015-03-30 11:04       ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-03-30 19:17         ` David Stacey
2015-03-30 23:02           ` Andrey Repin
2015-03-31  0:50             ` David Stacey
2015-03-31  3:26               ` Andrey Repin
2015-03-31  9:05               ` Achim Gratz
2015-03-31 10:04                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-03-31  9:07           ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-03-31 18:00             ` David Stacey
2015-04-09  8:15               ` David Stacey
2015-04-09 17:24                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-04-11 18:51                   ` David Stacey
2015-04-09 21:32                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2015-04-11 19:21                   ` David Stacey [this message]
2015-03-25 23:29 ` David Stacey

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