From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28082 invoked by alias); 18 Apr 2016 05:45:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 27695 invoked by uid 89); 18 Apr 2016 05:45:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=cowan!, Cowan!, WHAT, worlds X-HELO: mout.gmx.net Received: from mout.gmx.net (HELO mout.gmx.net) (212.227.15.19) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 05:44:58 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([46.163.75.188]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LdHeL-1baPMi2fXF-00iSs8; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:44:53 +0200 Subject: Don't descend into a flame war. was: Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10 To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <416uDmm4T7200S05.1460552179@web05.cms.usa.net> <84CCF5B5-9F11-4541-A527-FD0BD3AE5545@etr-usa.com> <1117668279.20160414220758@yandex.ru> <20160414204000.GA7622@mercury.ccil.org> <204284648.20160415013838@yandex.ru> <20160414233421.GC29184@mercury.ccil.org> <754938730.20160415125306@yandex.ru> <20160415162738.GB17406@mercury.ccil.org> <1798352479.20160418002743@yandex.ru> From: Herbert Stocker Message-ID: <57147454.3070705@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 05:45:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1798352479.20160418002743@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:c7knInBotMw=:1RdejTjCFI+I6X/jSnkmcC eSmmVvILDeyJw7EqJ2XRBZUvZfxZ3jiGPHid5S46dhFnKR72xb5XwBrfqPm3an2MKDa8r2v12 jpn5byBJ1d2txP0sHlPzmRTQChsbLZi85M4oz6Q/8mcBFz4fV1IniWKrQokVICuZfcoUj9EY2 AiEaGFoynQK91sX0cMXlgyRtsLkvj8JmMr7jb6gZ9KTYc6phjY/MH0psUbTA2MMt7n0hsDpt/ 6U2ucFgSxm3jYdbOWz6sJTydADTOySEiYdX9WD562U+s7cjY1uEdmIkYzOu8toqi8+aLnE8pO nBAyyBKcw+Awfda2Bb1LkxG4kZ/UbixJCSF46ziswcB3HezJK57mGW+R9524axF1ykGXfrUDA sTAMVlp5IWptd/ZVRewaPGS4Hg46m0pWjcOMmnuFblSJ14eNgiV5aOTK2l5NfdXNE7l03C/zE pnb+2IQ5Ums57c2pRp7A0zzRdAQww7fIzs8qfoQYNnt7R9mkHH7zC2J8UuLFRSvwMvhQxJj8c BIfE4VaW9LYdVNw6J7a7+cbm5q+PrOlI+20IBkI3wbFsu8Nuxpz8V1ukVG3fjAz4MwWRQWWDQ MC4F0f6XLbe2tS8tl81F3tCdR26kllFL+0D6OA8IWy3Gsn7yuBibNbyWpmN5yVNWBrDjk+ZjY F9hYWYCyOg/x2LpBIdbV4phlekHN1uiF0Bxtv+wM3UPkec2V133Qke47zlshLt4Hl2RF5bZuZ 9syrnuyvGtmYalHCou7rXxiLZTgRmA8UY37j2ZOTT3KiDqhwJky8xyyLT3w5VJr8te9A6VVhA cbfvHmp X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-04/txt/msg00422.txt.bz2 On 17.04.2016 23:27, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, John Cowan! > >> Andrey Repin scripsit: > >>> Of course, it is efficient. >>> More efficient, than starting a shell each time I need to diff a file. >>> Or 2-3 shells, if you call a wrapper. Which is least efficient, considering >>> retarded CMD quoting rules. > >> I always have 2-3 shells running, > > Having shells running, and having 2-3 shells start between a request and the > result is not quite the same thing, don't you think? > >> more if I am editing a lot of files. > > Having shells running for file editing? Sorry, what year you are living in? Editors like vim and others do have advances that other editors don't have. It's not a question of year, it's a question of preference. And of whether one goes over a high learning curve (like you also did, i know) or a shallow one and stays there. (like some i have to do with daily). > >> But you live in a GUI world and I live in a CLI world. > > WHAT? i for example live in both worlds. GUI for many things, and CLI for those things where the GUI exposes its shortcomings. That's why i say Cygwin makes that OS complete. > >> And no, cmd does not count as a shell. > > And yes, it do counts as a shell. By definition. > Using cmd to argue about cli is a mistake. Much like looking at the big churches and judging about God. Now that's off-topic by far.. Herbert -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple