From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 122316 invoked by alias); 7 Nov 2016 18:18:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 122302 invoked by uid 89); 7 Nov 2016 18:18:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=efforts, owners, offered, spectrum X-HELO: mx10.telnetmail.ca Received: from mx10.telnetmail.ca (HELO mx10.telnetmail.ca) (216.66.192.29) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 18:18:22 +0000 Received: from mx10.telnetmail.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx10.telnetmail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CF828FCF; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 13:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx10.telnetmail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by mx10.telnetmail.ca (mx10.telnetmail.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V4Wx2bFRonb7; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 13:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [205.210.1.118] (unknown [104.129.101.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gemesys@idirect.com) by mx10.telnetmail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB95528F86; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 13:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5820C561.1040209@idirect.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 18:18:00 -0000 From: Rus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com CC: gemesyscanada@gmail.com Subject: New Cygwin "setup" program useless on my Win-XP box. Not very nice at all. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2016-11/txt/msg00058.txt.bz2 Hi, I have cygwin utilities installed on an upgraded/enhanced Win-XP box. There are several reasons (too much to go into here), that I need to maintain this new box, but run it with the original Win-XP/SP3 O/S. It would be nice if I could access some of the Cygwin utilities that I do not have. I have a nice, stable, reasonably modern version of several utilies (eg: ssh and scp), and they all work flawlessly. The Samba stuff also works well here, and allows interconnection with a broad spectrum of various devices of various vintages. (All are useful - Blackberry Playbooks, several versions of Android devices, iPads (several versions), etc. I understand that Cygwin 2.5.2 was the last version that actually worked with Windows-XP. I tried to run the setup-x86.exe program, and it just fails. Quite unfortunate, as this will simply force me to abandon further usage of Cygwin. Short of messing around with the "Cygwin Time Machine", is there a simple way to just download some of the 2.5.2 source and/or the executables? (I need bzip2.exe, for example, and I find I only had gzip.exe installed. Arrrrgh.). Typically, when new software versions are introduced, which crash compatability with software versions which were previously installed in many areas, by many users, the developers will maintain setup-methods or apt-get style repositories of older versions of the code, so that users bound to early, popular platforms, can *easily* access previous versions of useful utility software. For example: The VideoLAN people make all their older versions of their VLC product for iOS available at the URL: https://get.videolan.org/vlc-iOS/ This has proved to be very useful for iPad-1 owners, who were thrown under the bus by Apple, which refuses to release any O/S software beyond iOS 5.1.1 for their gen-1 device, nor allow previous VLC versions to be offered in the Apple iStore. The VideoLAN folks provide 2.1.3 of VLC - both source and .IPA file, so the original, compatible software can be installed (if you "jailbreak" your iPAd), on the older device, so as to recover the ability to play videos on that device. Perhaps you might consider something similar for Cygwin? Since the current Cygwin "setup-x86.exe" does not work at all with Windows-XP, why not simply have A DIRECT LINK TO THE 2.5.2 SETUP which does work? No doubt, if you are using releases numbers, and version control, you probably have a nice source-hive and binaries for 2.5.2. Why not make these availble to existing Cygwin users like myself, who would like to obtain a working cygwin utility? Isn't this the whole point of your project efforts? Let the Windows users have access to some sensible Unix/Linux utilities? A bunch of people put some serious time and effort in to making all this great unix/Linux stuff for Windows, and a bunch of folks already have the needed .DLL's in their Win-32 library to run the stuff. At the very least, someone might consider offering a working pointer to whereever the Cygwin 2.5.2 Windows-XP compliant source-and-binaries hive has been hidden. - Mark Langdon, Waterloo, Canada. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple