From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 35499 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 2017 03:18:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 16161 invoked by uid 89); 24 Feb 2017 03:15:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-103.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=H*M:cygwin, H*Ad:U*reply-to-list-only-lh, his, serious X-HELO: pool-173-76-164-160.bstnma.fios.verizon.net Received: from localhost (HELO pool-173-76-164-160.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (127.0.0.1) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:15:38 +0000 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: dash-0.5.9.1-1 References: <1835159156.20170223203808@yandex.ru> <58af3c19.01309d0a.781cc.afce@mx.google.com> <1225366877.20170224005008@yandex.ru> To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Message-ID: <58AFA559.6010404@cygwin.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:18:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2017-02/txt/msg00308.txt.bz2 On 02/23/2017 06:01 PM, Tony Kelman wrote: >> The big question remains, where this speed boost coming from? >> Is this a startup time? Or some internal slowness? >> Because in latter case, given your STC, this is a bash issue and should be >> reported upstream. > > Dunno what you meant by STC, but upstream is well aware: > > $ man bash | tail -n 21 | head -n 2 > BUGS > It's too big and too slow. Forgive me but this entire thread has been giving me a serious case of deja-vu. We've been down a similar path to this before, the last time around with "ash" rather than "dash" but the arguments sound very familiar. Brian Dessent has a nice summary a paragraph into his response below: https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-03/msg00369.html Now this was "ash" and not "dash" and the actual transition from "bash" to "ash" and back again occurred well over 10 years ago, so allot of things have changed for sure. But I bring this up because I think the parallels are there. Since making a change of this magnitude is going to be an undertaking, we should be sure we're going to see the intended benefits before enduring the pain such a change would bring, though hopefully that pain would be short-lived and/or minor. :-) -- Larry _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple