From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 123995 invoked by alias); 4 May 2018 12:09:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 123973 invoked by uid 89); 4 May 2018 12:09:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=fantastic, kid, UD:wikipedia.org, H*M:1c69fb81 X-HELO: mail-qt0-f193.google.com Received: from mail-qt0-f193.google.com (HELO mail-qt0-f193.google.com) (209.85.216.193) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 May 2018 12:09:14 +0000 Received: by mail-qt0-f193.google.com with SMTP id q13-v6so26158736qtp.4 for ; Fri, 04 May 2018 05:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:subject:to:references :user-agent; bh=ToZQrpi3DOA3tL8rt9AJWB98K3f8GgrdmIXfKfZtIkY=; b=JdbAeCZUHZNP4GIord4q/ABb3+JUMMqH4WEI3n/1Tbvcl64yS4u5UPyoWCj9Cl4+uP dDXUP8fLImD3AePta+89nnyzLbCYluCZSl/kt7CltzSgkeaADvjGwcsioLYWjUZ6htLY AdSmla8ocPj7q8tlmxIOLzFmTg4HeWc0NmOyTZJNOu9lZL1BEnzVjTcjH2/lPDcWo09M X6aorWje6CNi/YqyGgkIYNqulltHrbVcjxFTFozUrslqtEvoDROzZUTmFrh77oCykaiA WGvxeHpx77K2RGSSzD0Or5SL7PSzutdOtW3cupD3TjeE4ZfcO69B2Cxd4FsPTD5nGMPp 67RQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tDHrMpE0SkmHIixf0IMvz3pK8cfF4mo7anAjCi7a/pEt7VtUd0h rFVf8BRrQEzF6R04PtBX0QUMIw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZoziwCiAqXxiLaqh9ds7Cs0kMUGNVwQTsQ+D/IsQpYeiYSfUZblwSalRlURXD6GvVRWjupO+w== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:27c9:: with SMTP id x9-v6mr22512675qtx.374.1525435752811; Fri, 04 May 2018 05:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from v6p ([2605:6000:9fc0:56:c2a:f066:2911:f71b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m53-v6sm14782693qtf.33.2018.05.04.05.09.11 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 May 2018 05:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5aec4d68.1c69fb81.f5182.7ad5@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 12:09:00 -0000 From: Steven Penny X-Google-Original-From: Steven Penny Subject: Re: Request new Ruby release To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <5d32508b-8936-26b2-6eec-c1bb07f6cdb0@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8; format=flowed User-Agent: Tryst/2.4.0 (github.com/svnpenn/tryst) X-SW-Source: 2018-05/txt/msg00076.txt.bz2 On Fri, 4 May 2018 00:05:23, Brian Inglis wrote: > For an understaffed, all-volunteer effort, Cygwin does a tremendous job > providing us with a compatible, reliable, stable subsystem working environment, > running in a less stable environment. > Cygwin seems to keep up to date with stable releases of important packages > better than distros who have full time staff, many more volunteers, and don't > also have to deal with an alien environment. Cygwin is a fantastic project. and yaakov handles a massive amount of packages, and i commend him for that. but lets not kid ourselves, ok? cygwin *does* keep up to date with *some* important packages as you say, but not other important packages. for example, GCC, is over a year old: http://gnu.mirrors.hoobly.com/gcc Ruby is over 2 years old: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_%28programming_language%29#Ruby_2.3 Cmake is over a year old: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-01/msg00190.html and several packages dont have a static library: - http://github.com/cygwinports/mingw64-x86_64-expat/issues/1 - http://github.com/cygwinports/mingw64-x86_64-fdk-aac/issues/1 - http://github.com/cygwinports/mingw64-x86_64-gnutls/issues/1 - http://github.com/cygwinports/mingw64-x86_64-lua/issues/1 - http://github.com/cygwinports/mingw64-x86_64-nghttp2/issues/1 - http://github.com/cygwinports/mingw64-x86_64-pcre/issues/1 compare this to debian which provide both shared and static libraries: http://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/libnghttp2-dev/filelist and MSYS2, which provide both up to date versions of everything ive mentioned, as well as shared and static libraries: http://repo.msys2.org/mingw/x86_64 -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple