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From: Steven Penny <svnpenn@gmail.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Request new Ruby release
Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 00:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5aed015b.1c69fb81.6a87b.524b@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7343c4c-d1e8-1356-138a-6b3e72082852@gmail.com>

On Fri, 4 May 2018 15:16:49, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> I do not see you doing any package activity release, so you should refrain to
> comment on how we (package maintainers) use our own spare time for this
> project.

such comments are perfectly acceptable if maintainers are acting in bad faith
with regard to packages. no one is perfect, certainly not myself. and if the
person in question is a maintainer of an important package, for example GCC or
Ruby, it is not acceptable for them to let a year or 2 go by without an update.

if they are worried about bugs, cygwin has a system in place for many years now
to deal with that. you make a package "[test]", so that people can test it. if
a maintainer cannot faithfully keep up with a package at least once a year,
that person should step aside as im sure other would be willing (myself
included) to take up maintainership of said packages.

> Please note that sometime, things are broken upstream
> and it takes time and it could require not available capability to
> solve the issues.
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/fortran/2018-03/msg00014.html

sorry, did you really just invoke fortran as a serious argument? fortran is
arguably the oldest programming language still in use, if you can even call it
that. you cant even do HTTP with it:

http://rosettacode.org/wiki/HTTPS#Fortran

youll notice that ADA already got the axe:

http://github.com/cygwinports/cygwin64-gcc/blob/master/cygwin64-gcc.cygport#L52

this could happen to fortran as well.

> If you want to help for a new package release that you care,
> try to build it, check that every thing is in place,
> provide if needed patches and guidance and I am almost sure
> the relative maintainer will appreciate your effort.
> I surely did
> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2018-02/msg00142.html

so did i:

http://github.com/svnpenn/glade/tree/master/mingw-w64-x86-64/gcc

my GCC build is done, as soon as I finish my G++ build, I had planned to publish
my recipe, but i guess now is as good time as any. i dont have the patch files
as ive seen with other build, so im sure i am missing something.


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-05  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-24 20:51 Steven Penny
2018-05-03 23:17 ` Steven Penny
2018-05-04  3:09   ` Yaakov Selkowitz
2018-05-04  6:05   ` Brian Inglis
2018-05-04 12:09     ` Steven Penny
2018-05-04 13:16       ` Marco Atzeri
2018-05-05  0:57         ` Steven Penny [this message]
2018-05-05  3:41           ` Brian Inglis
2018-05-05  5:27           ` Marco Atzeri
2018-05-05  6:56             ` Steven Penny
2018-05-05 16:18               ` Stephen John Smoogen
2018-05-06  5:54               ` Yaakov Selkowitz
2018-05-06 14:08                 ` Steven Penny
2018-05-14 16:10                   ` cyg Simple
2018-05-15  4:17                     ` Steven Penny
2018-05-15 13:27                       ` What is Cygwin and MinGW [WAS: Request new Ruby release] cyg Simple
2018-05-15 14:37                       ` Request new Ruby release Adam Dinwoodie

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