From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 120022 invoked by alias); 6 May 2018 14:08:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 120009 invoked by uid 89); 6 May 2018 14:08:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=blessed, seriously, tired, defense X-HELO: mail-qk0-f193.google.com Received: from mail-qk0-f193.google.com (HELO mail-qk0-f193.google.com) (209.85.220.193) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sun, 06 May 2018 14:08:17 +0000 Received: by mail-qk0-f193.google.com with SMTP id p186so20028412qkd.1 for ; Sun, 06 May 2018 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:subject:to:references :user-agent; bh=PQWbFRe/fKjK2gVTwusRx6shfZIZR4xLdiaSScBVq0A=; b=ahRxwr+Ty2fKUBf8els4lpIqbnOp2e0oW939sepEBzYQaRxZ4C0NeNZMEE2Vkp5dwb EIhup5jiMqgdAUXJEfU4drDEUokL6ZXLGSW0dYGSRY1rClEM+j17wQblr/JZnyBtUHpb vZXwbnS28ZmpfN+vj2pFrMDGyefecyuJpaR7ajC6n94NvCmPzgDc6Q8k8D5XhKuaJ7/i TIb3jgZJJPFzDwdF4DTLw1V/fcJNy9ThbYADWUXlNHass7Gh/6iLO6hKkf5D91FkoFlf EgFXP1crwoUbXA6pcs4H3RUsPPpkSRecZYkGOatQo6KQ5lXY3F04pzBcsbeIQ1vZv7TS tVWg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBcD3NVJ5rbLE3d88ShOzs/kgVA09nyNaD3D57GMer1024ta5JN Ys58KS+6vuwRt/MANbbegKjdTg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZoQ2znXVpg1F/YO1MWS7WqLSiz28w8hFM4A57ViSFgKyeSmrphEBgVgPqRpHhwKxQr0iDXxDw== X-Received: by 10.55.41.20 with SMTP id p20mr29178176qkh.410.1525615695297; Sun, 06 May 2018 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NBM ([2605:6000:9fc0:56:c2a:f066:2911:f71b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j1sm10872768qkf.52.2018.05.06.07.08.14 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 May 2018 07:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5aef0c4e.01b9370a.e260.3fe5@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 14:08:00 -0000 From: Steven Penny X-Google-Original-From: Steven Penny Subject: Re: Request new Ruby release To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8; format=flowed User-Agent: Tryst/2.4.0 (github.com/svnpenn/tryst) X-SW-Source: 2018-05/txt/msg00099.txt.bz2 On Sun, 6 May 2018 00:54:23, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > The question is, if you actually understand your comments are not > appreciated, why do you insist on making them anyway? because they have merit? i said that already. >> GCC as an example is a fast updating package. > > No, not really. its fast in comparison to cygwin releases. > Jon does not maintain all of the cross-compilers, yes he does? http://cygwin.com/cygwin-pkg-maint > Exactly. Griping (or worse) at those who are actually doing the work > while you contribute nothing doesn't get you very far. this is just patently false. while my builds may not be "blessed" by cygwin, they are available for anyone to use, and have been for several years. > I have never forgotten that, and hence am prepared to similarly defend > my fellow contributors (albeit probably not as eloquently). thats nice, but i think your "defense" is unwarranted. all i am asking here is for at least yearly updates, even if in the form of "[test]" packages, of important packages. for example, with these: 1. gcc-core 2. gcc-g++ 3. mingw64-x86_64-gcc-core 4. mingw64-x86_64-gcc-g++ only 2 of the 4 would meet that criteria. as i was tired of waiting, i built 3 and 4 myself: http://github.com/svnpenn/glade/tree/master/mingw-w64-x86-64/gcc and to my surprise with the right options a build only takes about 15 minutes. so its doesnt seem like a crazy request to me, to have a test build uploaded in this case. > You are the one who insists on throwing insults time and again, and I > have warned you about your tone before. I suggest you take heed. do i though? seriously i would like to know. i went through my posts on this thread: - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-05/msg00086.html - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-05/msg00082.html - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-05/msg00076.html - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-05/msg00059.html and i dont see a single insult that i have made. i might be critical of the current state of certain packages, but i am not seeing insults here from my end. take care. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple