From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36541 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 2018 01:01:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 36300 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jun 2018 01:01:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,UNSUBSCRIBE_BODY autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=forth, H*M:1c69fb81, plenty, H*M:google X-HELO: mail-oi0-f66.google.com Received: from mail-oi0-f66.google.com (HELO mail-oi0-f66.google.com) (209.85.218.66) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 01:01:18 +0000 Received: by mail-oi0-f66.google.com with SMTP id 14-v6so3901695oie.3 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:01:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:subject:to:references :user-agent; bh=WLklzkU6EqWKWWgo58ZrzBq23B86Uo7XQUelKuDfAN0=; b=Nh1rfGrpUqhHDxKfBHPMsJzvJWC7S/YdzMVGxDokFdxoL2aZYpI7yw9R6/HaBgxpky WoaiV/Rfkfj76l5MkmqQi2HJmmIqEheGt6oxf6RA31y5drtAjWhwOxt6eWIs0ZW6u0Af eEecg4uJnG8lXSfY3FV2JZ/4Sn4+yW5x/mbHeQ+RZUr9WaKNjffx+Uz2GSN3YvagK3SG Owfc8ZgdDZQuvJyP3/ufnJJS2ziOGaHE5qFGt+if94YRHeARMJtAwvDWyBUsFlMBKvbA qJirAwVwBiItBPeUGYq4bhzy3R6e17KjbNUlPe5hnldWbzdhd+YezgUPODDa3Mhrh9mx 3z1A== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3k2zEeYt/syVkMinG22mYy+GfOMU/jJZv75AFdrdS0nXH2neqj xcG0rG6kT4uWKHfL2kHmtHSh4w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIXwieHioAMNcqc7g5vmjPeQJ7y5CbDaZJGLpFoIuq39c5xKksThxk/pc7G3L9GcjKTOvAMfg== X-Received: by 2002:aca:5587:: with SMTP id j129-v6mr550271oib.141.1528246876668; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FcK ([2605:6000:9fc0:56:74e1:152f:4300:b4a6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q74-v6sm4673923ota.69.2018.06.05.18.01.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5b17325b.1c69fb81.5acf1.d5a7@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 01:01:00 -0000 From: Steven Penny X-Google-Original-From: Steven Penny Subject: Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8; format=flowed User-Agent: Tryst/2.5.0 (github.com/svnpenn/tryst) X-SW-Source: 2018-06/txt/msg00055.txt.bz2 On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 20:18:59, Frank Farance wrote: > No, I'm not suggesting that one must be subscribed, I'm pointing out that if > one wants to have a back and forth discussion (in a practical sense), some > kinda registration/subscription system is necessary. No, its not? did not you read my post? i have a tool that allow replies without being subscribed: http://github.com/svnpenn/tryst > Someone suggested a moderator (or multiple moderators) that would approve > messages from outsiders. ok cool, but whos going to do it? are you volunteering? if so you should email the proper group as indicated here: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-06/msg00035.html > That sounds like the easiest approach because it anyone can write to the list > and there would be just a short delay for those people who aren't subscribers, > but the main benefit would be the lack of spam. No. I am not interested in a "short delay". As I am sure others are not either. Why should we be penalized because we dont want our inboxes flooded? > I'm not tied to any technology, and I'm happy to have heard some more > discussion, which better informed me about some of the Use Cases I was unaware > of. ive seen plenty of discussion already - it seems several are against or strongly against: - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-06/msg00043.html - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-06/msg00019.html - http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-06/msg00017.html > So here's my question (and it assumes that there would be volunteer(s) to > moderate): so i guess that means you arent volunteering? > Question: "Would a moderation system work where subscribers could send > messages directly, but non-subscribers would need a moderator to approve the > message?" No. > If that is acceptable, Its not. > then the next step would be to find a couple volunteers. > Your thoughts? again, since you are championing this, it is odd that you yourself are not volunteering. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple