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From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSW.ab.ca>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Win32 FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION.*Time.QuadPart - which value should be used if filesystem does not support it, so Cygwin /usr/bin/stat lists the value as '-'?
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 22:30:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f0672aa-a33b-45fb-8ec6-826ad586bb66@SystematicSW.ab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZhWvznls2pyLd_YR@calimero.vinschen.de>

On 2024-04-09 15:14, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote:
> On Apr  5 04:26, Martin Wege via Cygwin wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 2:05 AM Martin Wege <martin.l.wege@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have problems with debugging, so a quick help would be appreciated,
>>> as I cannot figure this out after several hours of digging.
>>>
>>> Cygwin /usr/bin/stat returns "Birth: -" for some files. Which value
>>> must the CreationTime member of FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION have to cause
>>> /usr/bin/stat ti return "-"? 0, -1, or something else?
>>
>> In a related matter:
>> The Win32 FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION structure defines four time values:
>>
>> LARGE_INTEGER CreationTime;
>> LARGE_INTEGER LastAccessTime;
>> LARGE_INTEGER LastWriteTime;
>> LARGE_INTEGER ChangeTime;
>>
>> How can a filesystem indicate if it does not support a particular
>> timestamp, such as ChangeTime? Should ChangeTime.QuadPart then be -1,
>> -2 or 0, or another value?
> 
> I'm not aware of a filesystem not supporting ChangeTime, that is,
> st_ctime.  Usually only CreationTime (st_birthtime) is missing.

R/O media like CD/DVD-R or FS w/o write support?

> I think setting the timestamp to 0 works for indicating that this kind
> of timestamp is not supported.  Cygwin is handling Windows timestamps
> this way, but I can't find this in documentation ATM.

See upthread?:

Caller or application can set 0 to mean keep/return current value, caller or 
driver can set -1 to mean don't update/return current value:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/ddi/wdm/ns-wdm-_file_basic_information#remarks

> But the FS driver can also just fill the CreationTime field with the
> same value as LastWriteTime or ChangeTime.  MSFT NFS does that.
-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

La perfection est atteinte                   Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter  not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer     but when there is no more to cut
                                 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-10  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-05  0:05 Cygwin /usr/bin/stat returns "Birth: -", which value in FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION.CreationTime causes that? Martin Wege
2024-04-05  0:54 ` Brian Inglis
2024-04-05  1:08   ` Martin Wege
2024-04-05 15:51     ` Brian Inglis
2024-04-05  2:26 ` Win32 FILE_BASIC_INFORMATION.*Time.QuadPart - which value should be used if filesystem does not support it, so Cygwin /usr/bin/stat lists the value as '-'? Martin Wege
2024-04-09 21:14   ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-04-10  4:30     ` Brian Inglis [this message]
2024-04-10  7:59       ` Corinna Vinschen

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