From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C7F8386EC7D for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:54:11 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 2C7F8386EC7D Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ajrh.net Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=anthony@ajrh.net Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575BE164D for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap1 ([10.202.2.51]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:54:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ajrh.net; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=z/ij8y3il5jyWTrFYUjP3ccyBsEV GDVRr0rHTAhtOgo=; b=WJoLXUbsjtMggschM+grLeK5VOTtHp6JZwYmjVocLDxs pDBiK52X7OlTC2cG5LflBUb14nRHGuatTBBZKd8nP4gdNb9evzG90TQ1bC1Qnlxq YneZ/xA8Y06Vr1nb7FxDt3t1SfoQnArLKB9TbQfyRAger49i7TrWhD13L3AaLZ8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=z/ij8y 3il5jyWTrFYUjP3ccyBsEVGDVRr0rHTAhtOgo=; b=cUjYNtJ0c8aa+qLcCdXE3O BahfVsAU6EoquUL4zjWxP1tzrQQGMUAyNr/UZbNCHkS6pJNcjk8WBkc5LZjQig+u lgNhGBdJaWtNlns6e3t/PfXodbRA8syh2bhHsJ6fcCtiIib61nTkuXWkxlnK4PGs MdF/ECIPf6nQoXLnngt+nI+L30oOg9axRbQqgJylpwPU9mkyxgtHqoadkPYYK41a epCpwvwBHCBTGlYpaly6zZCmWOkGglsCVsdgBrGEPgjjB7XFvdB81YsGfqTxSucY e6MyriG/zlgEpUN/S+WQ5h/vo2t7MyETzmpKtm2YLQ/fwdsiH462Bgg3M6fEReKg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudeigdduudduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdetnhht hhhonhihucfjvggrughinhhgfdcuoegrnhhthhhonhihsegrjhhrhhdrnhgvtheqnecugg ftrfgrthhtvghrnhepfeefhefgtdefkeejfeffveekuddvgeekteeukeejieehiedvgefg leegkeekkeejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrh homheprghnthhhohhnhiesrghjrhhhrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 43D86130005D; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:54:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-78-g36b56e88ef-fm-20210120.001-g36b56e88 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <62b9ab58-2bed-4b7f-b16b-a89535e13cd5@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <715211bd-ed66-2537-9817-fe17eb6934d5@gmail.com> References: <7e502f36-d045-4dc1-b9f1-dec329bca9f4@www.fastmail.com> <715211bd-ed66-2537-9817-fe17eb6934d5@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:53:32 +0000 From: "Anthony Heading" To: "Marco Atzeri via Cygwin" Subject: Re: missing perl directories Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:54:12 -0000 On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote: > > not on usr/local > > perl-Stow: Perl library for stow > > 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/ > 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/ > 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/ > 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow/ > 2020-02-04 19:14 5559 > usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow/Util.pm > 2020-02-04 19:14 70081 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow.pm > Correct. And of course that means this Stow package doesn't actually work: % perl -MStow -e '' Can't locate Stow.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Stow module) (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.30/x86_64-cygwin-threads /usr/local/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.30/x86_64-cygwin-threads /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/5.30 /usr/lib/perl5/5.30/x86_64-cygwin-threads /usr/share/perl5/5.30). Similar to your reference to the FHS, the corresponding Perl policy intends that "site_perl" is to be used by the local SA. There is a "vendor_perl" concept instead to support this kind of cygwin packaging, as you can see referenced in the default path above. But the Stow example is a distraction which compounds two problems, so let's leave that aside. At core, this is catch 22. - The perl build reserves, creates, and expects to exist, an empty directory for the sole use of the SA: "site_perl". - Cygwin perl assigns that directory location into the tree similarly intended for the SA: "/usr/local" - Your strict interpretation of the FHS disallows the empty site_perl directory to be created for use by the SA because it's positioned within a tree reserved for use by the SA I dunno, Marco, I'm not so dogmatic, and I can fix my own installation. I just thought this would be a helpful bug report for others. It sounds like we can find enough conflicting Cygwin policy documents to ensure that there is no solution, so that's delightful.