From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC1C43840C04 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 14:38:04 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org AC1C43840C04 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian.inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id gr0Mjg6TTYYpxgr0NjFotJ; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 08:38:04 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=OubUNx3t c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=BR6wXjyFAAAA:20 a=Ed7FdIT4gc43trk-okQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: opam package should depend on ocaml-compiler-libs To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <000501d634d2$5ebc65f0$1c3531d0$@cl.cam.ac.uk> From: Brian Inglis Autocrypt: addr=Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXopx8xYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAnCK0qv/xwUCCZQoA9BHRYpstERrspfT0NkUWQVuoePa0 LkJyaWFuIEluZ2xpcyA8QnJpYW4uSW5nbGlzQFN5c3RlbWF0aWNTdy5hYi5jYT6IlgQTFggA PhYhBMM5/lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsDBQkJZgGABQsJCAcCBhUKCQgLAgQW AgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEB62lxu92I8Y0ioBAI8xrggNxziAVmr+Xm6nnyjoujMqWcq3oEhlYGAO WacZAQDFtdDx2koSVSoOmfaOyRTbIWSf9/Cjai29060fsmdsDLg4BF6KcfMSCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0Awv8kHI2PaEgViDqzbnoe8B9KMHoBZLS92HdC7ZPh8HQMBCAeIfgQYFggAJhYhBMM5 /lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEB62lxu92I8YZwUBAJw/74rF IyaSsGI7ewCdCy88Lce/kdwX7zGwid+f8NZ3AQC/ezTFFi5obXnyMxZJN464nPXiggtT9gN5 RSyTY8X+AQ== Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: <6331360f-ee38-d41e-ab30-cca991c3cf5c@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:38:02 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000501d634d2$5ebc65f0$1c3531d0$@cl.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfN9xOEX2MRc6MKGztr0h4nhdJF7afA9QjFk/Ssy0Af/YgwsqB2xcDBjbjWpuHL45nWd1WqBX5hIgorYfANzwHl5kOy023nWrXfgQYjH6YAg14gVcTbLY xRlqq+2Sko+uiYWqwpHdGp4JKnViJbcRuXRiJwfYhyx8C3UstgvKqu2D4NTBt7mIzczEp9na4CI3uw== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 14:38:06 -0000 On 2020-05-28 03:28, David Allsopp via Cygwin wrote: > opam assumes that OCaml installed by the "OS" package manager is "complete" > (i.e. is the same as "make install" from the OCaml sources), which is a > problem when "OS" package managers split upstream ocaml and don't install > the ocaml-compiler-libs package by default. > > Please could either the opam or ocaml package be updated to depend on > ocaml-compiler-libs. Fixes > https://github.com/ocaml/opam-repository/issues/16457. > > Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora both also have ocaml-compiler-libs packages, but > it's installed by their ocaml package as well. > > Arch chooses not to do this, having packages like ocaml-findlib expressly > depending on ocaml-compilerlibs and so also has its opam package depend on > ocaml-compilerlibs. > > As both an upstream OCaml and opam maintainer, I don't mind which package > has the dependency, but if opam is installed, please can any > system-installed ocaml definitely be "complete"! [current maintainer has resigned so packages are up for adoption] Cygwin packages are granular and dependencies are functional: which of the Cygwin packages opam and opam-installer uses Cygwin package ocaml-compiler-libs, or does opam use another ocaml package to build? Current packages are: emacs-ocaml 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-base 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-cairo2 0.6.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-cairo2-gtk 0.6.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-cairo2-pango 0.6.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-calendar 2.04-2 x86_64 ocaml-camlp4 4.10-0.1 x86_64 ocaml-camlp5 7.11-1 x86_64 ocaml-camomile 1.0.2-1 x86_64 ocaml-camomile-data 1.0.2-1 x86_64 ocaml-compiler-libs 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-cppo 1.6.6-1 x86_64 ocaml-csv 1.7-1 x86_64 ocaml-ctypes 0.17.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-curses 1.0.4-1 x86_64 ocaml-curses-debuginfo 1.0.4-1 x86_64 ocaml-debuginfo 4.04.2-1 x86_64 ocaml-doc 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-dune 2.5.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-extlib 1.7.7-1 x86_64 ocaml-facile 1.1.3-3 x86_64 ocaml-fileutils 0.6.2-1 x86_64 ocaml-findlib 1.8.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-gettext 0.4.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-graphics 5.1.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-gv 2.40.1-5 x86_64 ocaml-integers 0.3.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgl 1.06-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablglade2 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgnomecanvas 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgnomeui 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtk2 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtk3 3.1.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtk3-gtkspell3 3.1.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtk3-sourceview3 3.1.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtkgl2 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtksourceview2 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablgtkspell 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-lablrsvg 2.18.10-1 x86_64 ocaml-labltk 8.06.8-1 x86_64 ocaml-libvirt 0.6.1.5-1 x86_64 ocaml-libvirt-debuginfo 0.6.1.5-1 x86_64 ocaml-llvm 8.0.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-llvm-doc 8.0.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-num 1.3-1 x86_64 ocaml-ocamlbuild 0.14.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-ocamldoc 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-ounit 2.2.2-1 x86_64 ocaml-result 1.5-1 x86_64 ocaml-runtime 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-source 4.10.0-1 x86_64 ocaml-topkg 1.0.1-1 x86_64 ocaml-xml-light 2.3-0.2.svn234 x86_64 -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]