From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B33883857C64 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:10:16 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org B33883857C64 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian.inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id WNzakDhdPktFkWNzbkrBdy; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 12:10:15 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=NYRYa0P4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=5f946e07 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=94nOnFI1EgyDtX4ev68A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Interaction with non-cygwin programs To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: From: Brian Inglis Autocrypt: addr=Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXopx8xYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAnCK0qv/xwUCCZQoA9BHRYpstERrspfT0NkUWQVuoePa0 LkJyaWFuIEluZ2xpcyA8QnJpYW4uSW5nbGlzQFN5c3RlbWF0aWNTdy5hYi5jYT6IlgQTFggA PhYhBMM5/lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsDBQkJZgGABQsJCAcCBhUKCQgLAgQW AgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEB62lxu92I8Y0ioBAI8xrggNxziAVmr+Xm6nnyjoujMqWcq3oEhlYGAO WacZAQDFtdDx2koSVSoOmfaOyRTbIWSf9/Cjai29060fsmdsDLg4BF6KcfMSCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0Awv8kHI2PaEgViDqzbnoe8B9KMHoBZLS92HdC7ZPh8HQMBCAeIfgQYFggAJhYhBMM5 /lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEB62lxu92I8YZwUBAJw/74rF IyaSsGI7ewCdCy88Lce/kdwX7zGwid+f8NZ3AQC/ezTFFi5obXnyMxZJN464nPXiggtT9gN5 RSyTY8X+AQ== Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: <63caec69-b722-e7ff-f7ce-6febee5a5fb3@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 12:10:14 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfNebcbh8n/qv0SPw+y84SZvmxGQfGKimHJ6LDizx4LpPOdINUfWs9/P3b5hkhSLVvW8Ldyll7qGRHb39s2x9V341CVv77mpJkScJYlvn3eSf8oZzdbUj VuJApGQ5NxAbZOL0C4diKDHV+IlgkbZ9kD6CmSMpclr3WRJt24xLZ2idCW8oOROh5nemlacrJ7UQO+QGOCKMxQNnKsbEp3pRJM8= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 18:10:18 -0000 On 2020-10-24 09:04, Federico Kircheis via Cygwin wrote: > I've lately updated Windows to the latest version, and cygwin too (I had > something previous to 3.0). > I've read that interaction with non-cygwin programs should be better because of > the console-helper. > But in my daily usage the integration is worse, programs like tmux or even less > seems to have more issues than before. > For example >   /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/TortoiseSVN/bin/svn log | less > used to work correctly. > Currently if I press arrow down or up less does not scroll up or down anymore > and "ESC[" appears briefly at the top-left of the console. > > Of course i could install subversion inside cygwin, as > svn log | less > works without issues, but it's just an example. > git, adb, and other programs trigger the same behavior. > Also less is not the only program, tmux for example has similar issues. > > I believe the underlying issue is console-helper but I'm not sure how I could > test it, as I did, for example, not find how I could disable it, or if the issue > is already known. > > I'm able to reproduce the issue on a clean machine, so it should not be a > configuration issue on my side. I think setting CYGWIN=disable_pcon in your user or system environment should disable it: search for that setting for more information. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]