From: Andrey Repin <anrdaemon@yandex.ru>
To: Corinna Vinschen <cygwin@cygwin.com>, cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:05:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <671922837.20141114010459@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141113092702.GH2782@calimero.vinschen.de>
Greetings, Corinna Vinschen!
>> > 1. Utilize the homeDirectory AD attribute (aka %HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH%).
>> > 2. If homeDirectory is empty, fall back to /home/$USER.
>>
>> This is just a subset of what I suggested, so I’m in favor of it.
>> (By subset I mean that I’d prefer you do essentially the same thing for the non-AD case, too.)
> This would be most easily implemented as well.
> The beauty here is that probably 99% of the home users don't set
> HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH in their SAM.
They are always set by default.
> So they get /home/$USER as fallback,
No.
> which is what they got with /etc/passwd as well. And SAM users have the
> XML-like description field entry as well.
> For AD environments HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH are typically set, though.
HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH always set.
> Here the users get what they have to use as homedir anyway.
> It's simple, but it should work OOTB for most people.
Yes, it'll work. Just not as you expect it.
>> > 1. Always use /home/$USER and let the admins come up with a matching
>> > mount point scheme.
>>
>> That’s neglecting your responsibility as BDFL to set a sensible
> Heh. I didn't see myself as BDFL yet. Not sure if that's an honor.
That's a chore. But someone has to pull it.
>> default. The consequence is that everyone will do it differently, and
>> then you’ll have to support everything on an equal basis, because you
>> chose not to endorse anything.
>>
>> When you choose a sensible default, you get the option to criticize
>> and even deprecate wild alternative schemes.
> This is a philosophical argument. You'd have to argue in how far
> always using /home/$USER is NOT a sensible default.
I can give you a whole list of reason, including quotes from Cygwin
documentation, why this is not a good idea.
And "cygwin is not an operating system" will be a red canvas through them.
--
WBR,
Andrey Repin (anrdaemon@yandex.ru) 14.11.2014, <00:49>
Sorry for my terrible english...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-13 22:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-10 20:52 Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-10 21:18 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-10 21:39 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 7:30 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 0:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 2:42 ` Andrew DeFaria
2014-11-11 6:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 9:15 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-11-11 15:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 1:39 ` Jeffrey Altman
2014-11-11 6:19 ` Warren Young
2014-11-11 9:33 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 10:00 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 13:52 ` Jeffrey Altman
2014-11-11 16:19 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 4:26 ` Yaakov Selkowitz
2014-11-11 6:05 ` Warren Young
2014-11-11 6:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 9:00 ` Marco Atzeri
2014-11-11 6:09 ` Warren Young
2014-11-11 10:18 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 11:06 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 11:14 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 12:48 ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-12 16:27 ` Warren Young
2014-11-12 16:31 ` Warren Young
2014-11-12 17:55 ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-12 21:28 ` cyg Simple
2014-11-12 21:51 ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-13 9:06 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-12 22:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 16:45 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 16:55 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-26 21:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-26 21:29 ` Cygwin AD schema and configuration extensions (was Re: RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory) Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-26 21:56 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-27 9:36 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 14:52 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 19:23 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-27 20:12 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 2:21 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-26 21:58 ` Habermann, David (D)
2014-11-26 23:15 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 16:12 ` RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-27 17:41 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 12:48 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-28 16:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 17:04 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-28 18:34 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-29 9:36 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-01 17:50 ` cyg Simple
2014-12-02 5:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-03 14:05 ` cyg Simple
2014-12-03 20:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-04 12:21 ` Linda Walsh
2014-12-04 13:47 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-02 16:03 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-28 16:17 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-03 7:35 ` Cygwin AD integration home/shell changes Andrey Repin
2014-12-03 9:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-03 13:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-04 9:40 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05 5:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-05 10:13 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05 20:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-06 10:08 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-04 15:49 ` RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05 5:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-05 10:15 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-05 21:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-06 11:08 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-12-10 20:52 ` cyg Simple
2014-12-10 22:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-12-10 23:29 ` David Stacey
2014-11-11 11:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 12:11 ` Bryan Berns
2014-11-11 12:31 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 15:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-11 16:57 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 20:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-12 10:30 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-12 20:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-13 9:07 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-13 21:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-14 10:32 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-17 4:05 ` Andrey Repin
2014-11-12 16:45 ` Warren Young
2014-11-13 9:27 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-13 22:05 ` Andrey Repin [this message]
2014-11-14 10:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-11-11 10:01 Houder
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