From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32a.google.com (mail-wm1-x32a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32a]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40EB39960E5 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:36:19 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org A40EB39960E5 Received: by mail-wm1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id c128so4877102wme.2 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:36:19 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j9aAFS0jfRfARJlCE0uu4RJUew76yqXFft/gaXCl0uo=; b=qYXV6JtTVmZgB4UuqqmAV8T+xoWgbaJcaRGfiCBNHDqoEmsUEr+hT0hcgWSnOZTRxy R7mIxuFsRlVV9BTHQWydDIRSoM6APBN13YlOMT/Q3UKJx871e9+2BBzHnRUkYSdm0m+m ztds511HklXjBW/xjej4Q1CeOlSa6QmfrtLcbS7lJOFkZ88dRIhXhUb7V9x5Kqw2gJPx ErYVqR98NqWfeFHCqDCKc1C4hMhlfwLtMmmWE+I5U8xRxEpst8ZSZHfvWAGwS+fG+5nT dnblnvybv+x+p/gr4Xwrs3wmMaNP16lY7l/DgNCI/bjuLzEg+DA/xa50lTNEtT02za7z PjpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530lfreRP8K6h/npMUSb3UOL9TJ1Sx4UyAjUp0Q1Ac174m17TRAD j+iijCWOlBInwNXavktgei5P5Lv4NwhBVQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxkpHhntI80Kr56liSquG3YsN6XYSehUPI9WrCmLJJvPsq4tQTnNm05rPrvNu28SzvJhqrpHw== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c397:: with SMTP id s23mr1977312wmj.182.1611333378704; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2003:cc:9f0c:c870:9897:e929:a499:d5e2? (p200300cc9f0cc8709897e929a499d5e2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:cc:9f0c:c870:9897:e929:a499:d5e2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c16sm12505199wrx.51.2021.01.22.08.36.18 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:36:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: missing perl directories To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <7e502f36-d045-4dc1-b9f1-dec329bca9f4@www.fastmail.com> From: Marco Atzeri Message-ID: <715211bd-ed66-2537-9817-fe17eb6934d5@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:36:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7e502f36-d045-4dc1-b9f1-dec329bca9f4@www.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: it Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, KAM_SHORT, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:36:21 -0000 On 22.01.2021 17:15, Anthony Heading wrote: > Hi Brian! > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Brian Inglis wrote: >> either something has not completed correctly, or something is missing in recent >> installations. > > I think that's right. Those the directories which are referenced in the binary, I know the generic upstream perl source process has always created them, but they're not included in the current cygwin package. As a total guess, empty directories are maybe now being elided in the cygwin packaging process? > > % strings - /bin/cygperl5_30.dll | grep /usr/local > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.30/x86_64-cygwin-threads > /usr/local/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30 > > % cygcheck -p site_perl > Found 4 matches for site_perl > grepmail-5.3033-2 - grepmail: search mailboxes for mail matching an expression (installed binaries and support files) > perl-Stow-2.3.1-1 - perl-Stow: perl library for stow > perl-Stow-2.3.1-2 - perl-Stow: Perl library for stow > perl-Stow-2.3.1-3 - perl-Stow: Perl library for stow not on usr/local perl-Stow: Perl library for stow 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/ 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/ 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/ 2020-02-04 19:14 0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow/ 2020-02-04 19:14 5559 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow/Util.pm 2020-02-04 19:14 70081 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow.pm >> no package should touch them > > Marco, I have no idea how to interpret that statement constructively. Sorry, I should have be more clear. We can discuss if the perl package should deliver empty directories like usr/share/perl5/site_perl/ and similar. It seems reasonable but I am not a Perl expert, however a distribution package should never write on "/usr/local" https://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/usr.html " The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being overwritten when the system software is updated" Regards Marco